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Dumbguy

Hey guys, before anything thank you so much for sharing all your pieces of knowledge and excuse me for my bad english.
Sumary: 23 male, 6 years trahuma induced peyronie and some mild erection problems, 1 year ago this got gradually worse, 5 months it came to get worser, last 3 week abrupt medium-severe ED.
Should i pump?, should i use traction?, can i use both?, how should i?, has it to be adapted cause now i lack of morning wood to avoid shrinkage?, what do you saavy guys would do in my case?
"Quick" background:
when i had 17 (im 23 currently) i started to make "penile enlargement exercises" wich basicly consisted of presuring and pushing on semi erection the shaft of the penis (pretty nice way to get peyro uh?) my erections went dead and when they returned it was harder to achive em and it didnt get at "normal" position i´ve always had a curvature around 25 degrees near the gland but no problem at all, but now it was aall my penis bent evenly at like 25 or something like that and felt not as rigid, however i could have sex and i passed  like 5 years like this, gp s of social insurance i wento to in the early phase told me it was all psychological bla bla bla but i always knew it wasnt, however i couldnt afford studies and so on, for long time i thought it had been nerve damage and nothing could be done.  Last year, i think because of rough sex, i started feel how it was everytime harder and harder to get erections and around 5 months i began to notice my nocturnal erections were worse and that really got me worried so because i always thought it was nerve damage, so i decided the only posible way to avoid shrinking was to buy a vacuum pump and  soon went to a sex shop and got the one on promotion  around 2 months ago. Since then i have used it like 15 times, pulling a little more than normal erections i feel no pain, the sealing is different is like a rubber ring that presures so you have to be rigid and that had begun to be a problem for me cause only whit imagination it takes a lot to get me hard and i need to stimulate to get a functional erection.  i used a little the pump for that reason and to not over excersise most other days i prefered watching porn and masturbating just to get my penis on use and avoid shrinking.
Around 3 weeks ago i felt huge dificulties to get it hard and the coming days at the event i felt a strange sensation like a knot in the penis and a little retracted but visualy on flacid it looked normal,  now i remember one or two weeks before that i felt pain during intercourse (rough sex probably).
Around week and a half my penis tried to inflate and like a sausage ballon trying to get inflated whit an obstrucction it expanded contracted wobbled and man that scared the crap out of me, then i saw it "turtling" and that freaking horryfied me, next day i went to a uro who told me he had felt plaque inside my penis and made me feel, its almost all way the long of the penis, he gave me colchicine and vitamine e and sent me to make a doppler i have not gone but i think peyro pretty much explain everything.
i´ve been looking at treatments and because i had mild ed wich has become medium-severe ed and i show poor response to sildenafil (i used it a couple times and it doesnt work that well) and all other treatments for peyro well seem little or no response, how i see this we only have traction and vacuum so im sticking to the protocol for one cilinder now till i have more informarion cause i love my penis and its quite a small dick so i cannot allow half of an inch to get lost, I have bought some sleevs and tried em yesterday they can fit me well.
i dont have money and i think i will be broke a while cause im making my intern in electrical engenering and the money they give me serves for little so i dont know if i should buy a sex shop extensor also, meanwhile ive been considering just to fill a bottle of watter put a strap on my buddie get sit and let the bottle hang on the arm of the chair at my side through a pouley or something like that.
i´ve been thinking on stay on mech therapy for the necesary time to avoid shrinkage and maybe gain some lenght and then undergo a penis prostesis surgery, lately i saw about xiaflex and adipose derived stem cells maybe i could try em before, adipose derived stem cells are lgal here in mexico but every procedure costs money and as i say i think it´s gona be a while till i can afford one of those things
So brothers in disgrace what would you do in my position?
thanks and blessing to all of you, it reconforts me to know we are hanging in there
 

LWillisjr

Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
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NeoV

Dumbguy,

Give your penis plenty of rest. Porn can be alright but avoid over masturbating or exhausting your arousal system. Do not masturbate with a less than 100% hard penis and never clench your PC muscles while doing so. Relax, and masturbate less, only when your body forces you to. My morning wood came back after avoiding masturbation for a very long time.

I did this for a while, combined with traction and supplements, and improved a lot. Everyone is different, but I just want to warn you to be very careful as to not keep your penis in a chronically inflamed state due to masturbation and constant erection checking. Treat it like you would treat a broken arm, rest it, and encourage it to heal in a natural shape via gentle traction and VED therapy. How to use both VED and traction can be found on these forums.

Hard flaccid went away for me after I ignored my penis for two weeks, to the point of semen leaking out every time I urinated. I know this doesn't always help, and if you abstain too long that can be bad as well. This is what worked for me. Traction and rest with no porn.

Lastly, forget vitamin e, and try to get pentox or order some cheap supplements like Citrulline, Arginine, CoQ10, and Acetl-L-Carnitine.

Try to be patient, I hope you can get some improvement and I think you will.

Dumbguy

Thank you Neo, it´s reconforting to know someone else was in my case and is better now.

Yesterday i was able to have a good erection watching porn, i was sooo happy that just started touching my penis and ended masterbating however now im getting just more and more worried, i have been trying to get serious whit ved but if i star flacid flacid the cilinder just pulls all around my penis, and my penis stays almost same lenght as flacid i mean the change is really minimal. So i puted a ruber ring and started flacid, this way presure could do nothing more than pull my penis and my penis got almost same results!! if i pull more i just feel this strange little sensation of tearing tissue, also im starting to notice how this wrinkles are now shaping my penis
i think there is a severe blockage and i am so scared of shrinking. i dont really can think of anything that can help me , yesterday i also tried to apply some traction (before masturbation) and i putted a watter bottle tied whit a strap to my penis around 30 min like 2 pounds... i dont know if that made things worse but i belive today things look worse, in 10 days i will be getting a doppler, but this is mental hell.
i hope anyone can give me an advice
thanks guys i really need some words

NeoV

VED takes some serious practice, and is not an exact science. Try lubrication to get a good seal, if that doesn't work try using the ved at a downward angle and shaking your penis in the tube to a bit to get it at an ok seal.

Don`t give up. I remember when Peyronie`s gave my penis wrinkles as well, when it started bending the first time. It really takes a long time for the initial damage to resolve and until then things are going to be pretty inflamed. That`s great you had a good erection with porn.

Dumbguy

Sorry guys, i was waiting to get the Doppler done so i could come with some more scientific information of the actual state of my dick but well i´m not really sure when is that i will get it anymore, i think it´s gonna take less than 3 weeks.
Glad to say that following your counsel i´m already one week on pentox, i´ve been trying to take 3x400 mg a day but someday i forget to take one dose or so and on two more days i will try to get all the pharmacy i can from health social security.
yesterday i had fun sex after 10 days of ved suspension and it was k, almost inexistant pain and strangly i could have had sex just over and over again i think plaque is acting like a constriction ring, it just remains hard a while after i finish business.
some days natural erections are some more firm some days are inexistant but well almost everyday its like 35%-40% when they come naturally and when i get aroused for a while enough maybe 85%.
lately i could engage sexually whit two beautiful girls but im not confident, i hope uro will accept to give me some caverjet just in case of emergency.
i have no more pain when getting erections so i wanna know whats your opinion on getting back to VED, well as i said my pump is a freaking toy, this one exactly:
https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php?action=post;topic=7349.0;last_msg=74895
the release valve is quite fast i think, the pressure limitation is the problem, because i tried using just the cilinder and lots of vaseline but that just pulled the skin inside the tube and almost zero penis, i tried stretching that pink thing in the photograpy, i just expand it and put my flacid dick inside whit a lot of vaseline (wich i learnt the hard way is the only way) and it creates a nice seal so nothing else than my dick can be pulled and it gets so wide when pumping but lenght remains almost the same that when flacid and i mean it, and well if i push over that i just fill im ungluing some scotch tape inside but i dont think its a good idea at all, well i´ve seen some users round forum say that they couldn't get a "long" erection in the ved but over time that gets progresively longer i dont know if i should stick with ved or get a traction device wich btw would be another sex shop toy cause thats just what i can afford.
as i already had a long hardened lession and this new one is giving me quite some problems geting it hard my penis i think has started the process of shrinking it´s really recent but i think it´s a bad case of plaque, i have really considered the idea of implant despite the loss of lenght as well it will loss lenght anyway probably.
So in the meantime i have planed this routine let me know what you think about it.
7 min pumping on the morning, rest of 2 hours, extension for 2.5 hours, rest of 2 hours, extension 2.5 hour, rest 2 hours, and finally 7 min pumping, and im thinking how to apply heat most of the time and i mean 20 hours a day or so, i think i will just get a lot of rechargable batteries and wrap cables in my leg and search for an electrical heater.
and finally a big, big shoutout to NeoV and to old man, i really appreciate your support i just wish i could do more to pay for it.
infinite blessings to all and let´s tame this bitch  

Dumbguy

just checking back and i think to finish this topic

this last weeks i tried some days whit a lot more caution to use VED but well i think caution was not enough cause pain and that sensation of someone opresing my dick has gotten in again and it had really almost disapeared before, i also notice pain in other places where i hadnt
my penis has begun to get more curved when flacid and i dont even now yet if i can have an erection suitable for intercourse but yea my ed problem is way worse, hourglass has started to harden and i dont wanna know what will happen when all the lessions get hard

this sucks

i investigated a reputable biologist who performs autologus fat derived stem cells inyection but its just to expensive for me or my family, its around 3,610 usd it may not sound like a lot, but in mexico it is
good news is that prp is relatively cheap and i´m trying to get it asap, i will be getting a doppler before, and maybe several monts after
Another physician who i just found today sais he has not treated peyronies but a lot of fibrosis on lungs and kidney whit very good results, mainly whit some placental inyeccions that he brings from switzerland, it cost half of the fat derived stem cells.
i will do more research when he send me the laboratories he gets em from.
any other way im just seriusly f'~c<+d
ved doesnt work, viagra didnt do much for me in the past, more curvature, small dick, low blood flow and well insurance doesnt cover implants
i think i will just have an extensor a lot of time until i can emigrate to any rich country and get an implant in.. i dunno how many years lol, btw, have anyone checked the pneuma silicon sheat to increase penis lenght and width?, it sais is fda aproved, cause well i dont want a functional micro dick... it´s are it havn´t had much atention or at least around here
so well, i think im just leaving ved for good
i will focus just on heat, traction and celular therapies when i can afford em.

Good bless us all

BE EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMELY CAREFULL WHIT VED


Old Man

Dumbguy:

Sorry that you have had a set back with your VED therapy. However, you have learned the difficult way what we mean when we say be careful with the vacuum pressure when using a VED. This caution is posted all over the main forum threads/topics.

Old Man
Age 92. Peyronies Disease at age 24, Peyronies Disease after
stage four radical prostatectomy in 1995, Heart surgery 2004 with three bypasses/three stents.
Three more stents in 2016. Hiatal hernia surgery 2017 with 1/3 stomach reduction. Many other surgeries too.

MoatazKad

it seems i am mostly the only one at least on this board who has been going good with VED. I attribute that to Old Man, and just holding to no more than 5 seconds.

Dumbguy, avoid those silicon implants. they're mostly a scam. if you want to go the implant route your best bet are experienced and high volume surgeons in the US. Franlk talk maybe a good place to discuss that.