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Author Topic: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study  (Read 3115 times)

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A 2007 study of Verapamil vs. saline when delivered via microcurrent suggested that the electric current itself may have a curative effect.  The abstract is on the Web by searching on "Greenfield", the primary investigator, and the first few words of the paper's title: "Verapamil versus saline in electromotive drug administration for Peyronie's disease ...".

An unexpected outcome was that the saline group had nearly as many (by %) patients improve as the Verapamil group.  And more importantly, of the total of 42 participants, 11 (7 from the V. group, 4 saline) had >= 20º reduction in curvature.  The suggestion is that the current itself played a significant role.

I did not find the entire paper, only the abstract, but the suggestion is clear.

I have a TENS unit and am going to experiment with it.
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Re: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2018, 11:09:40 PM »

I am using a TENS unit before and after use of traction and VED devices. I created a new dance move accidentally when I was adjusting the dosage of intensity. Seriously, it really hurt. So be careful if you buy a new device that you're not familiar with
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Re: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2018, 11:23:37 AM »

Are you using the tens ultra sound? Do you think it helps?
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Re: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2018, 02:40:59 PM »

Really interesting, i missed this. Which results did you obtain with microcurrent?

I have to say that i had 33 injections of verapamil on the plaque, via IONTHOPHORESIS, so microcurrent, and i had an improvement of about 30% in plaque lenght (from 7 mm to 5 mm)and of about 15-20% in thickness (from 1.7mm to 1.4mm).
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Re: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2018, 03:38:56 AM »

Hey Hope,

Wow, your progress with Iontophoresis are encourageing, that's great! What about their effect on pain, if you were/are still in the acute phase?

About the TENS unit, as said by 1seeker, I'm not sure I'm ready to manipulate such thing I'm absolutely noob with if it comes to my penis :/... But it could be interesting that someone with greater experience report here :-)!!

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Re: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2018, 03:49:57 AM »

Dearest Gabriel,
My Peyronie is quite unique. I haven't (and never had) any pain. Furthermore, my penis begun to curve about 4 years ago.. so my acute phase should be already ended.
For these reasons, i can't tell you the results of iontophoresis on pain, unfortunately. But this treatment of verapamil via iontophoresis gave me good results. I'm considering to buy a iontophoresis machine and continue to do that alone..
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24 yo from Italy.Peyronie's probably since 2014.Since then,penis bends of about 10-15°, with a slight twist to the left.Moderate Erectile Dysfunction since 2 years and things getting worse.From pornstar-like to moderately depressed,but still fighting for a solution.

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Re: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2018, 12:53:46 PM »

Sorry I've been away, but thanks a lot for your answer Hope :-) !!

Having your own iontophoresis machine at home would be awesome; I wish you good relief with it if you come to it.

Let us know!

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- Treatments: all oral meds/supps discussed here; traction/VED; ointments (essential oils, diclofenac); PRP/HA injections (5/6 sessions)

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Re: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2018, 01:50:30 PM »

@Gabriel, it's not difficult to find a iontophoresis machine; the difficult part is to find Verapamil :)
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Re: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2018, 02:52:49 PM »

Just FYI, the control was not the tens unit alone but in conjunction w saline injection-so the supposed curative effect can only be assumed to be both in combination and is most likely due to the % of those w some degree of spontaneous remission or placebo.  Still, no reason not to try...
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Re: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2018, 05:30:29 PM »

Tzsanchez, are you goin to give it a try?
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Re: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 07:25:10 PM »

This is basically what I am trying now.
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Re: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2019, 08:35:56 PM »

I believe the way a TENS unit works is through the gate control theory. It basically fools your body into thinking there is no pain (spinal cord).

How this therapeutically benefits a scar I fail to see. Worth a try, I suppose.
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Re: Microcurrent (TENS unit) as possible treatment based on 2007 study
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2019, 09:59:36 PM »

Im reading a lot of articles like this but also government studies on the topic of electricity and wound healing...

My Story: Scar Relief Therapy – National Pain Report
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