Penis doesn't expand in ved

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crookedshaft

For the life of me I can't figure out the ved. I can get a good seal, but when I pump my penis doesn't really expand much. It seems to just harden up in its flaccid state and feels like it is being compressed. I've tried both rings and have to stop after the last session as my penis has been aching since, this was only after 1 and a half to 2 pumps so i certainly wasn't over pumping. Has anyone else experienced this situation of their penis not expanding in the ved, I am really running out of options.

NeoV

When you first use the VED this is very common. In fact, my penis barely inflates in the tube as well. I usually have to pump from slightly engorged.

You need to make sure your seal is good. Put lube on the outside of the ring and shave your pubic area. Having a lot of pubic hair makes the VED basically impossible if you ask me!

Remember, the goal of VED therapy is to only slightly fill out your penis, not get a full erection in the tube. I know what you mean by that compressed feeling. Usually that happens when the seal is bad. I usually have to shake my penis around in the tube for a while before it works.

Another thing to consider is the angle. I cannot use the VED at a perfectly straight angle, I always have to aim it slightly downward, and dig it pretty deep into my pelvis from slightly underneath. Good luck!

Old Man

crookedshaft:

I agree with NeoV's assessment of your problem below. However, I am confused when you say you have tried both rings while doing the therapy session.

By rings, do you mean the cock rings or the sizing inserts that are placed in the mouth cylinder? If you are placing the cock rings on your shaft and then pumping up, this is a NO NO!  The cock rings are only used to cause your erection to hold up if you have ED. You cannot get the shaft to expand well with the cock rings in place and can cause major damage to your erectile tissue if you are, so make sure not to use them in your regular VED therapy sessions.

Let me know your exact procedure when doing your daily sessions in a step by step manner and I can evaluate what you might be doing wrong to not get good expansion of your penis. There are only a very few cases where the VED therapy fails to work properly.

Old Man
Age 92. Peyronies Disease at age 24, Peyronies Disease after
stage four radical prostatectomy in 1995, Heart surgery 2004 with three bypasses/three stents.
Three more stents in 2016. Hiatal hernia surgery 2017 with 1/3 stomach reduction. Many other surgeries too.

crookedshaft

Old man:

Sorry I meant to say the sizing inserts, I certainly haven't been using the cock rings. I started off using the bigger insert and could only get the penis to expand if I started off 80% erect, otherwise only the base of the penis would expand and I would feel a large amount of pressure there. Using the smaller insert, which only just fits helps the problem but I can't really get the penis to expand too much. Just seems to put the penis into a flaccid hard state with much of the pressure felt at the base. After on and off ved use over the year I was trying to stick to a continuous program and was a week in and think I have caused a flair up with a continuous dull ache and absent morning woods since my last session (very little pressure used). As far as I'm aware I follow standard procedure, trimming the pubic area, lube the inserts, lube the upper underside of penis and a little lube on the outside of the ring.  

Old Man

crookedshaft:

OK, sounds like that you are doing almost everything right. However, I see that you state that you only lube the shaft on the underside. Suggest that you try this:  lube the entire penile shaft well, except be sure NOT TO GET ANY LUBE ON THE SCROTUM. If lube gets on the scrotum it will most likely be sucked up into the mouth of the cylinder when pumping.

Try lubing up as stated above, insert the glans in BOTH sizing inserts and slowly start pumping pressure to pull the penis on up into the cylinder. If you are using the small A cylinder (if you are using a three cylinder VED) you should know that only a portion of your penis will be pulled into it. The A cylinder is designed so that the shaft will be confine in a very straight shape to help remold any curve/bend you might have.

It take practice to get the proper procedure using a VED. The protocol is only a general guide as each and every case of Peyronies Disease is totally different. Each case of Peyronies Disease therapy sessions with a VED must be developed by trial and error to reach a goal that is comfortable and not cause any further symptoms.

Keep us up to date on what is happening for you. Surely, there is a solution to your problem. Also, if you can, call the sales rep where you purchased the VED and ask the technician if he/she has a solution.

Old Man  
Age 92. Peyronies Disease at age 24, Peyronies Disease after
stage four radical prostatectomy in 1995, Heart surgery 2004 with three bypasses/three stents.
Three more stents in 2016. Hiatal hernia surgery 2017 with 1/3 stomach reduction. Many other surgeries too.

Voltage

Hey guys;

Just wanted to state that I had my first VED session today and it felt scary. After a long time having peyronies and sticking solely to traction, this was a big leap. I too have no luck receiving an erection. Unlike crookedshaft, my penile shaft wouldn't get hard. It's my head that's the real problem. It gorges up quickly and seems to be the only thing growing at a vast rate. So much so, it grows much larger than normal to the point it feels like thats where all the bloods going. (Although the shaft is growing at a lesser rate in itself too).

I have no idea how many pumps is too much. Are you supposed to pump three times and wait ten seconds or are you supposed to pump once and wait ten seconds? How many pumps are you allowed until you have to release the pressure? I was trying to go by the protocol, but I couldn't receive a 50%/80% erection. I simply released the pressure whenever my penis started to feel tight/pressure inside. (I was scared to damage it).

I wore the device standing upright while holding it down at a 45 degree angle like it's manual told me. (I bought the Vitality OTC one cylinder). Would I have better luck sitting and keeping it straight/standing with it straight?
Loss of erections since 2014.
Slight bend to left, used to be straight.
8 Hrs of Phallosan Forte daily.
20mg Tadalafil from River Pharmacy daily.
Two unique c*ck rings for maintenance.
Erection quality sufficient for s*x when all used together.

james1947

Voltage

You should pump to the point that you still feel comfortable, with no any signs of pain.
This what I am doing and had never any problems.
I will let Old Man if he will be online to write a more detailed answer.

James  
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

NeoV

The glans expanding too much is a problem I have too. I recommend you avoid it. Learning how to pump takes a lot of trial and error. It's not as simple as several pumps. I usually have to shake my penis around in the tube and do mini pumps till I get the right inflation.

Avoid letting your glans expand too much. My glans is permanently larger now and I don't actually prefer it this way.

Voltage

Everytime I use the VED, (which has only been twice now), my circumcised foreskin has been getting bigger. It looks rather ugly, but already I must confess that my orgasms are just finally starting to come back! Should I just continue the VED and get my foreskin tucked surgically when my peyronies subsides? I don't really even know if that's a thing. Anyone else have the foreskin enlarging specifically?
Loss of erections since 2014.
Slight bend to left, used to be straight.
8 Hrs of Phallosan Forte daily.
20mg Tadalafil from River Pharmacy daily.
Two unique c*ck rings for maintenance.
Erection quality sufficient for s*x when all used together.

welshwales

Voltage,

When the penis atrophies due to Peyronies Disease a circumcised penis may theoretically develop an excess of skin, this is something I have discovered, and not in a way that appears related to the VED. Personally I have no issue with it, but I guess everyone feels different about these things.

james1947

I will add myself to welshwales post.
After losing 5 cm to Peyronies, I have also excess of skin in the circumcised area while flaccid.

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

Old Man

Hey Guys:

As far as the foreskin coming into play with VED usage, just ignore it. I had the same occurrence when I started using the VED therapy way back in 1995. I am not circumcised, but had my foreskin ''pulled back" by my older brother and a cousin when I was four years old. My maternal grandmother was a Creek Indian squaw who used some Indian medicine on it to help it heal. There were no bad effects from this episode, but have had a good bit of foreskin over the years.

OK, the VED did make the foreskin a bit longer, but getting erections with the VED and using cock rings to hold it up, there is no problem with the skin interfering with good sexual intercourse. In fact, the rings hold it stretched with no loose skin on the shaft above the rings, etc. It looks as if I were circumcised with the rings in place, but does not shorten up the erections either.

Old Man
Age 92. Peyronies Disease at age 24, Peyronies Disease after
stage four radical prostatectomy in 1995, Heart surgery 2004 with three bypasses/three stents.
Three more stents in 2016. Hiatal hernia surgery 2017 with 1/3 stomach reduction. Many other surgeries too.

Voltage

I don't know guys. I keep using the VED and everytime my foreskin looks pretty swelled. It doesn't go away and to my dismay, my penis doesn't stretch to a snug fit like it did the day before in my traction device. I've come to the conclusion that my peyronies accompanied with the VED is in fact shrinking my penis size. I've actually been fortunate enough to say, that my penis has truly never lost length, nor girth to peyronies until now. It's like the VED is triggering it. I must have an abnormality. Should I continue? I don't want a shorter penis, nor do I desire a huge foreskin. I'm actually quite repulsed by the sight of my dick.

On the plus side, I will gain the ability to orgasm again. I have little to no feeling whatsoever, but I do believe I'll get it back with this. The negatives just feel too great though I'm afraid.

EDIT: This does still somewhat relate to the topic, because my penis still doesn't inflate with an erection. It just becomes large in girth and much shorter in length. It appears squishy and not anything hard of the sort.

Also, Oldman I just finally saw your pm's. Sorry for redundancy.
Loss of erections since 2014.
Slight bend to left, used to be straight.
8 Hrs of Phallosan Forte daily.
20mg Tadalafil from River Pharmacy daily.
Two unique c*ck rings for maintenance.
Erection quality sufficient for s*x when all used together.

NeoV

Voltage, quit the VED immediately and continue gentle traction. As you know I'm very against letting your penis swell after VED usage, since in my case it has lead to one solid year+ of a chronically swollen penis. I also attribute most of my success in recovery to traction. However, I think VED is an amazing tool and it did help me significantly when I used it, and arguably the effects are still there today. The science is sound as well.