Can you have sex with your Peyronies?

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powderpowder

 Not sure if this is the right place, if not sorry please move it, but simple question.

Can you still have sex?
If yes or no, what degree is your bend?
if no, explain why...pain?
And if you can have sex, is it painful?

Shlomo

Yes, I can still have sex.  I have a 45 degree to the left.  During sex, entry can be painful, but lubricant helps.  It can also be painful if my wife squeezes tight, and if I stay in too much after ejaculation.

Litani

Yes.  I can.  I have 30 degree dorsal bend.  It is not painful.  If it does not progress, it is a psychological battle for me and not physical.
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emasculated

If you mean penetrative sex. I can but I won't so not risk further injury. It's a stupid idea with Peyronies Disease.
"Without health life is not life; it is only a state of languor and suffering - an image of death."

RoyHobbs

Not if you're careful and not if you use lube. Not having any sort of intimacy can wreak havoc on your psyche. But it's an individual choice.

I have an 84 degree upward bend. I can have sex, but not with her on top. There are a lot of things I can no longer do. Certain positions cause pain, but I'm stable.  

anonpdacct

Hi everyone,

In a different thread, I saw JackP write the following:  "The best position is boy on top with the girls butt on a pillow. This changes the angle and allows for better penetration and movement. Always have sex with a rigid penis and use a good lube to avoid futher injury."

RoyHobbs, do you mind sharing how you go about intercourse with 84 degree upward bend?  I would appreciate hearing anything you can share regarding positions that work well for you and for your partner.

In fact I would really like to hear from Shlomo and Litani on this as well if you guys are willing to share those details.

best,

Anon

LWillisjr

Penetrative sex is safe as long as you have a solid erection. Obviously if you have a weak or soft erection then penetrative sex is risky due to causing further trauma. And since Peyronies presents itself so differently you will find a full range of Peyronies sufferers who can or can't get a solid erection. In my case I could always get solid erections.

From most of the men I have personally communicated with, penetrative sex is quite possible up to 30 degrees. From 30-45 degrees it becomes more uncomfortable for both partners. 60 degrees or more can be quite a challenge and really depends on the direction of curvature.
Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
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powderpowder

If we could get more people to give there input here that'd be great. Could give people some hope

RoyHobbs

Missionary or entering from behind (spooning) are the most comfortable. If I divert from these positions I start to feel discomfort. But it's not ideal and if xiaflex doesn't work for me I'm opting for surgery.

Shlomo

I know I already responded.  Jackp's idea to put a pillow under the woman for missionary style is very good. I've tried it at his suggestion and it works. He sent me another suggested position, with a drawing of it, which is supposed to be good for men like me with a sideways bend.  It involves the man lying on his side (whichever side would have his penis pointing out straight) while the woman lies on her back at a 90 degree angle across him and her knees bent up and over him, so her vagina lines up with his penis.  I haven't tried it yet.  Maybe Jackp can post it here with the diagram.

inkhorn

I have followed Jack's advice and it works. I have a 45% dorsal curve. My best position for penetration is both of us on our knees and me entering from behind. Inkhorn

Norm

I had a hard left curve. I was able to have sex in the missionary position, but I did slip out easily and lost rhythm while fumbling to get back in position. From behind worked better for me, but then there is less clitoral contact for her. We wound up swapping around a few times.  
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Thisismyusername

I have a slight curve and lots of pain.  Effectively cannot have sex because of the pain.  

powderpowder

To the others, do you have pain also and can still have sex?  Or are you pain free

And thisismyusername, are you on Pentox or any regimen for the pain?

james1947

With left bent and upward banana curve, no pain, can have sex in missionary position with the pillow and from behind.
And much as I can ;D

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

MeMo

technically have no problem for penetrative sex with narrowing (hourglass? no ED sometimes painful erection) on top dorsal area, but mentally do not feel comfort enough. while I am single and have no wife or GF to satisfy no need to take risk. Also I am not sure penetrative sex could deteriorate my Peyronies Disease or not. every time I see my deformed penis it makes me feel so sad, decided keep going on oral treatment no sex for one year if this is futile I'll do graft surgery.

Shlomo

My wife and I finally tried the sideways perpendicular position described in my earlier reply below (February 19, 2014).  It worked very well and I recommend it to anyone like me with a sideways bend. If your bend is left, lie on your left side and if right, lie on your right. She lies on her back across you at a right angle with her knees bent over your pelvis.

BoatFool

Upward bend of about 70 degrees makes it very difficult to penetrate in any position. I was so frustrated I was about to give up on penetration until I read the the pillow under her rear suggestion.  It works great!  I really appreciate whoever posted that suggestion.

Had pain the first 3 months but pain has since gone away.  

powderpowder

I am not sure what you mean Shlomo by that position. Can you explain it better or try and MS Paint it?

LWillisjr

Google the "T-Square" position. There are a few variations of this.
Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
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powderpowder

I hope we could get more posters input in this thread.

Anyway, to those of you who see this, were you able to have sex if you had a painful erection?  

mikecl

mcl

IhatePD

Yes you can have sex with Peyronies Disease.  I just got back from vacation and in the last 11 days I had sex 7 times.  I developed Peyronies Disease in August 2012 and my curvature started in February 2013 and got to about 40-45 degrees upward bend and slight curvature to the left. I alos experienced narrowing of my penis from mid-shaft where my bend starts.  After traction for 13 months alsong with VED and Pentox, L-Arginine, Acetyl L-Carnatine, Ubiquinol and 5mg Cialis I now have a 30-35 degree bend, no curve to the left and my norrowing has decreased.

During this time, I had the greatest challenges to my business ever along with a sudden and quick divorce. I have fixed the business issues and started concentrating on my Peyronies Disease and found my girlfriend the day after my divorce. We had sexual relations within two weeks from our meeting and the following week, I explained everything to her about my Peyronies Disease and how I got to where I was.  She is very supportive and always asks if I am doing my traction and VED.

She actually says she doesn't want me to change my upward curve since it "hits places no one has ever hit before." I will still try to get straight again and I meet with my urologist in two weeks and I will discuss the PRP injection therapy based on some of the success seen by others on this site.


james1947

IhatePD

I think you should make a post on:
Improvement - Accounts of improvements in deformity or erection. - PDS - Peyronies Society Forums
With more details on your treatment (supplements/medications quantity, how much traction and VED)

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

cs65

I cannot have intercourse.  While I don't have much of a bend, the pain upon penetration is just too extreme. Any sexual activity is limited and very gentle.

james1947

cs65

Are you doing some treatment for the pain?

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

Chris Overleaf

Thanks to some use of a pump - and maybe just the passing of time - I find it easier to get erect and enjoy sex now - despite my peyronies bend and shrinkage! - but while i can get aroused through foreplay, and later have a satisfying orgasm, I don't get much sensation once inside so lose some of the erection and then have to bang away without much sensitivity. Likewise with masturbation: I can turn myself on but then sensation fades rather than increases so I lose interest!
Does this sound familiar to any others?

I quite like the way it's led us to experiment- with more foreplay, biting spanking stuff, us masturbating ourselves and each other, and often once she's orgasmed i pull out and make myself cum on her - which she can find quite hot too I think (hope). But in the midst of all this there's lots of potential for off-turning concerns about whether i'll damage my cock again or lose erection at the wrong moment. But we shall overcome!  

powderpowder

I agree with James.  Ihatepd, you should make a post there to give some people hope. Anybody having good progress should post there.

Anyway, to the guys who get pain, it is bad enough to the point where you cant have sex? What does the pain feel like....and are you on Pentox?

BrooksBro

As I see it, there are at least two factors at work here.  First is pain, and the second is the degree of curvature which could physically preclude penetration.  Possibly a third factor would be the inability to either achieve an erection (ED), or the inability to sustain it (venous leakage).  I believe many men who have Peyronies are able to have sex.  I am unsure that anyone is ever truly "cured" of Peyronies.  The question becomes much of what can be done to allow sex for men who have Peyronies.

After the first 6-9 months, my pain level decreased to where it has since not been a problem for me.

When I had a 90 degree (measured by the doc) upward curve, I could not have penetrative sex, so my wife would masturbate me to orgasm.  Following plication surgery, the curve was reduced to 50 degrees (measured by the doc today), and we have been having penetrative sex for about 18 months.

The size and location of the plaque(s), can affect the ability to achieve an erection, or to keep it long enough.  The plaque(s) prevent the veins from closing to retain the blood in the penis.  To reduce the effect of these undesired conditions, I take viagra (increase the blood flow in), a VED, and a constricting band (to hold the blood in).


Njnist

Yes I am able to have intercourse. At this point my curve is barely noticeable, just a slight curve upwards of about 15 degrees. At the worst point, I could not have sex for over a year because of the pain. My curvature was up to 30 degrees, though luckily it was at the very tip of my penis so it was manageable once the pain stopped, just inconvenient. I am not sure if the reduction in pain was because of Pentox, L-arg, coq10 or l-arg or just stabilization of the peyronies. The pentox definitely helped get some elasticity back although I no longer take it because I do not like how it makes me feel. At this point I am just taking l-arginine, propolis, bilberry and coq10. I just finally started traction a week ago after more than 2 years since developing symptoms. Honestly I stopped coming here for awhile because it started to stabilize and I started to sort of accept that it would not change, but after some promising developments, I now come here with excitement for new treatment ideas instead of worry and doubt.
I know that everyone is different and no two people can have the same results but I really want to thank all of you here for everything you do. Without the encouragement I read around here and all of the ideas (which none of my earlier uros seemed to have) I can say that I have finally been able to overcome the hardest part of peyronie's for me, the mental anguish. I now feel hopeful about my situation and feel that even more improvement has yet to come.

powderpowder

That sounds great Njnist. Good for you and I'm happy you're doing better.

Some questions....how does the erection pain feel like?  You attempted sex and couldnt do it?  Didnt enjoy it?  And did you have an active sex life during or before that?

And you should post in the improvement section please.  It would help out alot of people!

Litani

Njnist,

I know everyone is different but can you tell us how long you took pentox before stopping?
Care enough to throw everything you got at this disease but do not care enough to ruin your Life!

Njnist

In total I took it for about 6 months.

powderpowder - The erection pain radiated from near the tip of my penis which made sex impossible because of the pain until stabilizing. I had an active sex life before that though for about 5-6 months leading up to peyronies I was only having sex maybe once every couple of weeks. There was a year before that I was having it daily and was pretty rough on it. I had multiple times when my penis "popped" when the girl was grinding on top, though no pain or loss of erection when that happened so I never stopped. I wonder if that might have contributed ???

welshwales

For me, intercourse is possible with a 40 degree bend to the right. It's not painful for me or partner as long as we use lube. The major problem for me is maintaining the erection due to poor blood flow caused by multiple plaques. I will hopefully be starting regular use of ED medication in the near future if my consultant signs off on it.

Nordicz

Yes I was able to engage in intercourse when my curvature was about 30 degrees dorsal, and early in my progression of the disease. As stated previously my wife found it to be very good intercourse because of that curvature. I did experience discomfort and soreness but with lubrication it was tolerable. Now this has progressed to a curvature of 65 degrees and we have tried seven ways to Sunday and cannot have penetrative sex. My wife has been very patient and supportive and that has gone a long ways with dealing with the disease.

Z

29mUK

I'm in the acute phase, & currently struggle to keep it up "properly" - I think more owing to the pain than anything else. So, um... kinda; with difficulty! Fortunately, my girlfriend isn't an overly sexual person & doesn't seem too bothered about it.

LWillisjr

Quote from: Nordicz on April 30, 2014, 06:32:28 PM
Now this has progressed to a curvature of 65 degrees and we have tried seven ways to Sunday and cannot have penetrative sex.

Nordicz,
Your symptom seem to have started out so similar to mine. If you haven't done so yet read my story (link in signature) block. Happy to answers questions you might have.

Les
Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
My History

powderpowder

Is there anybody that has pain and can still have sex even if it hurts?  

UrsusMinor

>>Can you still have sex?

Yes...usually. There have been a couple of times it hurt enough, and was just perturbing enough, that I lost my erection. I'm 60 years old, and have never had that happen before, so I found it deeply disturbing. And, of course, now I worry about it...and this seems like a recipe for developing full-blown psychologically caused ED.

Knowing that there is a major mental component doesn't solve the problem!

>>If yes or no, what degree is your bend?

I think it's around 35 degrees. Maybe a little more on a bad day?

>>if no, explain why...pain?

Mostly pain. Anxiety, self-consciousness, and self-loathing are of course beginning to play a role.

>>And if you can have sex, is it painful?

For a while, especially at first. This diminishes as I get going...

But boy, do I pay for it afterwards.

I'm taking a break from ejaculations for a while. Even if the sex is gentle, or just masturbation, it hurts for hours after ejaculation. So, we mess around, I get an erection, I do things to get her off...and then I just wait for my erection to gradually fade.

It's a bit like being 13 again--messing around with a girl while wearing a hard-on that definitely ain't going to get any relief!

chandnitare

I had pain in the bingeing, but pain mostly go away over time, I find out certain position n adjustment and I CAN avoid  pain.

powderpowder

How long did thee pain stage last for you guys? And did you do things to relieve the pain?

Ive had aching and pinching feelings lately when flaccid but not erect. This may be due to doing too many stretched flaccid tests and it being sore, and alot of sex and masturbation probably plays a role also.  I dont know if this is the start of my pain period or i just need to give it rest and not think anout it for a little

chandnitare

I think masturbation is one of cause for Peyronies Disease.

In my case, there was pain in some form almost all the time, but initially it was with both erection and flaccid, lasted for 3 months, next is only on erection which lasted for near  6 months. After that pain is only during or after sex for about one year but this pain is tolerable. Now in some position there is little pain, sometimes no pain at all, sometimes even flaccid feel bit pain or numb. I was in this condition for last one year at least until I messed  up last while doing VED. Now have continuous pain but it reducing as I stopped VED, Sex and started pain killer.


Best  regards,

Chand

UrsusMinor

VED seems to give me quite a bit of relief from pain. But I am really, really, really careful with the pressure!

lawyerguy1

I am a new member and have found this forum to be interesting and informative. In response to the question posed:

I can have sex with Peyronies....occasionally. I have a natural banana bend in my erect penis that my partners found very pleasurable. Now, at 52 years old, the banana bend is more pronounced and there is a "soft" spot that makes penetrative sex more difficult but not impossible. Also, I have lost significant length as a result of this condition which started about a year or more ago when I noticed ever worsening pain with erection. Now it is much more difficult to maintain an erection. I went to a urologist about 6 months ago and was prescribed an ED medicine which offered little help. My PCP prescribed a daily ED medication which has been more helpful but has not helped with the loss of length and the soft spot. I am now looking for a urologist in the Atlanta area that has specialized knowledge in this condition for aggressive treatment. I had previously had a very active sex life and in less than a year have become reluctant to attempt sex because of the physical aspects and the psychological difficulties faced. The sex is not as fulfilling and rewarding as it was once. There is still some pain associated with sex but it has decreased over time. it was excruciating at first.

I am looking around the site for other resources and recommendations for doctors and how to find a good doctor for treatment. Thanks for all the input I've already seen.  

LWillisjr

Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
My History

Peyroniedevice

Sex was really difficult when i had Peyronies

UrsusMinor

And now you don't have Peyronie's any more?

Please elaborate.

Greenalien

Hey guys, I know this is an older post... but I thought I would chime in.

Peyroine's has definitely impacted my sex life. The mass I have has started to cause a curvature towards my abdomen. Right now it is a moderate curve so not too bad for penetration. I find the pain to be the larger barrier. My penis begins at ache a lot as I get erect and by time I'm half hard it starts getting to be more of a sharp pain. It travels from the mass all the way to the underside of my glands. Once fully erect it is almost unbearable let alone once any pressure is added. When I masturbate I can try and limit the pressure on the sorest parts, but during intercourse or oral its way too painful. My wife tries her best but you can tell she is uncomfortable and afraid to hurt me. She won't ride me any more so it limits the "fun" things we can do. It sucks.

The psychological aspects are almost worse... take the enjoyment out of things when everyone is afraid of causing pain.
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actionnotsorrow

Yes. No. I used to before the Ed kicked in. In fact like several other posters, my longest term relationship was with a woman who appreciated the interesting stimulation created by having a 60 degree bend to the left. I'm almost tempted to have a bumper sticker printed for us. Peyronies Disease Guys hit the spots regular guys can't...
I think my ED now is a combination of psychological and physical. Knowing that you appear more bent the harder your erection is a sure passion killer for a guy. Kind of devils choice, bent or limp. But I think I'm also starting to suffer leakage as evidenced by been able to harden up a bit by pressing on the vein. Either way I've not had penetrative sex now for about 4 years.