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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #550 on: August 16, 2015, 01:17:32 PM »

Wish you good results with the treatment yyy
Will stay tuned for sure

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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #551 on: January 26, 2016, 07:34:36 PM »

Hey guys, I know there's a lot of interest on the boards regarding PRP/stem cells so wanted to tell you about my experience.  First off, I have damage to the penis and ED, but not sure if I technically have Peyronies Disease (no curve and never been diagnosed).  I received the treatment about a year ago.  It was definitely more painful than I expected.  I can say without a doubt I experienced an increase in size and functionality immediately (and I'm not talking about the increased volume) and lasted for about 6-8 months.  The most noticeable difference was how responsive my penis was.  It was like going from trying to start a car in the winter to a sports car in the summer.  It was always ready and firm.  I also took daily Cialis, 1 pentox and arginine and used the pump in the beginning, but stopped.    Recently it seems if the results have diminished, but I am trying to determine if that's reality or if its because I came off a cycle of testosterone and my body is still rebalancing.  Just wanted to share and hopefully improvements to the treatment will provide lasting effects. 
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #552 on: January 27, 2016, 12:51:21 AM »

Thank you for posting your experience BigJoe11. :)
You are between the few lucky ones that got good results from PRP.
I am not, as the PRP done nothing to me :(

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« Reply #553 on: February 23, 2016, 04:26:13 AM »

Hi all, during an appointment with my Urologist I raised the Priapus shot.  He explained that he would not do this, let alone be able to get in Australia as it is not approved for such use.  There are no studies out there to support it and all reports seem to be anecdotal, so I can see where he is coming from. 

I found on www.priapusshot.com a list of practitioners in Australia who apparently do the priapus shot. (despite what my Urologist said about it's presence/availability here?) 
This is the website for one Australian provider. http://www.oshotaustralia.com.au/oshot-procedure-lp/
He can do the procedure and offered to have a free consultation to discuss it further if I would like. I'm not sure if he has done this before for Peyronies.

The website looks somewhat questionable, so I ask if anyone in Australia has any insight into this?
Are there any independent studies available that support priapus shot for treatment?
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #554 on: February 23, 2016, 04:42:05 AM »

For me, PRP was something that was available and close to home. It also seemed low risk at the time and was quite new and seemed promising. I think it helped but can't say I have any real benefits at this time. The science seems like it makes sense. The best results I ever had were from traction and supplements.

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« Reply #555 on: February 23, 2016, 06:07:19 PM »

I went to the PRP way, was one of the most enthusiastic on the forum, unfortunately it didn't helped me at all :(
And no, don't have any serious independent studies on the PRP subject!!!

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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #556 on: February 24, 2016, 09:13:45 PM »

overcomethis, your urologist doesn't believe in it, the majority of real world experience men undertook on this forum did little or nothing to support it as a viable treatment, and you have a legitimate suspicion regarding the Priapus website itself. I think your gut is trying to tell you something. I say go with your gut.

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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #558 on: February 26, 2016, 08:56:38 PM »

Has anyone ever experience a rash, itching and swelling around area of the groin
Concerned something is wrong
Got a shot for peroinies
And using ved twice a day
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« Reply #559 on: February 26, 2016, 08:59:56 PM »

Hey Humble, could you give us more specifics? Where exactly is it, when did it start?

It's best that you see a doctor if you are unsure and if it seems like something isn't right.

The PRP injections made me very swollen the first day, and I'm not talking about the fluid retention from PRP itself. My penis looked awful for the first 24 hours I think.

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« Reply #560 on: February 26, 2016, 09:09:50 PM »

Within the first 24 hours like you said was swollen
But then broke out in a rash everywhere the ved was
My groin area
Inside leg
Red and some swelling concerned had allergic reaction to silicone lubricant so stopped using it
Didn't know if anyone else had same experience or something similar
If normal or close to
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #561 on: April 03, 2016, 06:59:24 PM »

Hello all,
I have been looking into Peyronies treatments for about a year and there seem to be variable results with every treatment.  I have had a mild case of Peyronies for about 15 years, which is nearly half my life, and it's been a very slow development over that time.  But in this last year it it increased dramatically. The curve increased, pain increased, I developed noticeable scars, and lost about 3/4" in both length and girth.  The only thing that changed in that time was my stress level. I had several major life crisis within a few months.  Ive read this forum and others as well as information on the Peyronies Disease Institute website.  But it wasn't until I was trying to find a treatment for some other health issues that I found something promising.
Some treatments operate on the theory that if you heal the man (restore good health) the Peyronies will heal itself. Makes sense, but I eat and live healthy and still have a ton of issues.
The PRP treatment makes sense in theory but it seems like the guys who need it most don't see as good of results as those who don't need it but get it purely for enhancement purposes.
Now, I just got done reading a book called "The Amazing Liver And Gallbladder Flush" by Andreas Moritz.  After reading that book I have formed a theory...the PRP or platelet rich plasma shot is dependent on health of the platelets in your own blood.  If your liver (which is responsible for many systems in the body) is healthy our bodies naturally heal themselves.  The amount of stress I had last year took a toll on my liver which showed up as multiple health issues. So it only makes that those of us with Peyronies likely have poor blood and therefore don't get the results of someone who has great health already.  I hope that made sense. 
Anyway, I have spent tons of money on remedies with no good results so far.  I'm going to do this liver cleanse for a few months and then get the PRP shot to test my theory.

Any thought or opinions on that?
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #562 on: April 08, 2016, 12:43:18 AM »

Silver177

You may want to read the forum experience with the PRP here:
PRIAPUS/PRP Injections Trial (forum) - Peyronies Society Forums
and many other topics on this very board.
Be careful with the liver cleans!!!
I made such a cleanse for my prostate according to a book publishes by a Dr. that cured himself from prostate cancer without surgery or medications. He died one year after I bought his book ($30) from prostate cancer :( After he cured himself already. How sad!!!
I still have side effects from the cleansing, like losing slowly my tooth's after taking out all the amalgam fillings :(

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« Reply #563 on: August 20, 2016, 03:56:29 PM »

Has anyone ever really had a negative reaction to the priapus shot?   I have had some minor scaring in my penis for over 10 years and it has not cause much curve or deformation of my penis.  Just a couple of barely noticeable dents.  My biggest problem is chronic pain in the areas of the scars that always has me scared of the disease progressing.  I wonder if the priapus shot might be able to do something for my pain.  I don't even care if it reverses anything, I'd just like to be pain free.  My biggest concern would be making my condition worse and the disease progressing more because of the shot.  People who have had the shot tell me what you think. 
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #564 on: August 21, 2016, 03:23:41 AM »

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Has anyone ever really had a negative reaction to the priapus shot?
Not as I know, but you may want to read the topics related to Priapus/PRP, have many
Dis you see a Urologist/Peyronies expert?
Did you try Pentox for the pain? Many on the forum got helped by Pentox regarding pain

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« Reply #565 on: August 21, 2016, 04:19:45 AM »

Yes I've seen several Urologists and have tried Pentox.  The Pentox does relieve the pain somewhat if I take it long enough but if I stop taking it the pain comes back.  I'm currently not taking any and am in a considerable amount of pain.  My current Urologist wants me to see a pain management specialist.  It would be really nice to find a fix that didn't rely on having to take pills everyday.  I think I am going to see if I can get another script for some Pentox on Monday though.  My scarring is pretty minor and it would be nice if something like PRP or stem cells could reduce it to where the pain goes away permanently.  It just doesn't seem like there is that much info out there on it that I really trust.  Even on here it seems like a lot of the people that post on something don't stay active long enough to really know what their long term results are.  I wouldn't expect any miracles from a priapus shot like growing longer, thicker, with a complete resolution of all my symptoms.  No pain with no meds would be nice though.     
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #566 on: August 21, 2016, 02:32:13 PM »

Everbody in here has been waiting for better treatments than the bunch of ridiculous snake oil we are offered. I live in 24h pain  and I cannot do any activity, I've tried so many stuff and obtained nothing. I understand you but I don't know how much time we have to wait before something decent..it could be years or decades..
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« Reply #567 on: September 09, 2016, 12:47:07 PM »

The PRP shot will encourage the proliferation of a certain category of stem cell. So the distinction between PRP and stem cells is not a binary one. PRP is not a monolithic entity like Tylenol or Advil that remains invariant across space and time. There are about 16 + companies offering PRP devices of one kind or the other. These machines vary greatly in PRP concentration, PRP retention -- meaning that some devices require that more blood be drawn in order to achieve  PRP concentrations comparable to those achieved by other machines using less blood--, White Blood Count (WBC), and some produce PRP that is leukocyte poor and others leukocyte rich PRP. This latter distinction is an important one because leukocytes can be pro inflammatory. This can be helpful when injecting PRP into joints, but whether or not soft tissue can stand to benefit from these pro-inflammatory agents is another question. There is also debate about whether or not higher concentrations of PRP lead to better results.  There are invivo studies demonstrating that anything beyond a 2.5 fold increase in the patient's baseline platelet concentration leads to a less  favorable outcome than do lesser concentrations. Many of the more popular devices out there increase the baseline concentration by a factor of 8! These products also vary in terms of the anticoagulant used: some anticoagulants are outright acidic, others are neutral. I suffer from the same symptoms you describe, toofoolish. I would add low dose cialis to your pentox. The cialis helps a lot with the pain....in other words vascularizing the penis seems to help reduce pain. The P shot is designed to rejuvenate the penis generally...this would have to include increased vascularization. The risks with PRP are low and the potential benefits are great. Just be sure to inquire as to what kind of device they're using. Regenlab errs on the low end of PRP concentration ( between 2.5 and 3) and their product is leukocyte poor. Dr. Virag uses this product. Harvest, Biomet GPS, and Megellan offer somewhere in the order of a 5 to 8 fold increase and are leukocyte rich. I know of clinics that have transitioned from low PRP concentration products to higher concentration products and have met with greater success. I think it's important to keep these issues in mind. PRP produced via a lower concentration product might be less effective than a highttp://orthodoc.aaos.org/WilliamFBennettMD/Growth%20Factor%20Platelet%20Concentration%20from%20Commercial%20PRP.pdf her concentration product and vice versa. Here's a link to a relevant article written a few years back:
Comparison of Growth Factor and Platelet Concentration From Commercial Platelet-Rich Plasma Separation Systems

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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #568 on: October 06, 2016, 11:22:29 AM »

after 2 shots... no positive results... still curved...
trying to focus on using the VED everyday....

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« Reply #569 on: February 16, 2017, 05:17:21 PM »

HealthGAINS has been treating men with erectile dysfunction and Peyronie's Disease using the Priapus Shot (P-Shot). Dr. Richard Gaines is a Harvard trained, hormone optimization and sexual health expert who has literally written books about these topics.

Peyronie's Disease is a painful and unfortunate disease but it does not have to be permanent. Our patients have seen noticeable improvements that can have a drastic impact in the patient's well-being and in reducing discomfort and pain.

In addition to using the P-Shot by itself, it is now also possible to use the Priapus Shot in combination with the GAINSWave™. The GAINSWave™ uses high frequency acoustical waves to open up old blood vessels, and to stimulate the formation of new vessels. The resulting improved blood flow helps any man, and not just those with ED, to obtain stronger and more sustainable erections.

With all that said, it's clear that there are a significant amount of Peyronies Disease sufferers on this forum that have found little to no relief with the Priapus Shot. Over the years, Dr. Gaines has been making the necessary adjustments to the protocol to ensure the best possible result for each patient.

We are here to help and answer any necessary questions and concerns you all may have. Our goal is to educate and treat Peyronies Disease for those who are having to unfortunately endure it.

If you want to speak on the phone to someone on our medical team, please contact us through the site and mention that you are coming from the Peyronie's Forum.

Thank you.


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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #570 on: February 16, 2017, 11:20:18 PM »

A search for Priapus will give you 57 results on the forum
A search for PRP will give you 159 posts
Many of us had done Priapus shots, PRP shots and other combinations and we know the efficacy for Peyronies from our our experience!!!
All the information is on this specific board!!!

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« Reply #571 on: February 16, 2017, 11:24:28 PM »

HealthGains, Dr. Gaines, as you appear to have come on our forum to solicit business, I would challenge you to share some of the case histories (anonymous, of course) of men who you claim have enjoyed "noticeable improvements" to their Peyronie's through your Priapus and GAINSWave techniques.

Specifically, we would need to see before and after photos of measurable, recognizable improvement in curvature or deformity, along with accounts of the treatment protocol, etc.

Simply telling us a technique that has been - through many anecdotal accounts here, as well as photographic evidence - proven to be a waste of both time and money (a lot of money) is not helpful in any way.  We need to see evidence. What Priapus has lacked all along is evidence. In theory, it works miracles - in reality, it empties wallets.

If you cannot provide substantive evidence of results gained by Dr. Gaines' "necessary adjustments to the protocol" than, like others before you, you are wasting time here and creating false hope.

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« Reply #572 on: June 19, 2017, 03:23:06 PM »

I'm interested in knowing more about Gainswave... I was watching one of my favorite health podcasts.
It's about a bunch of erectile dysfunctions but I wish I could have asked about plaque from peyronies, but apparently it can break it down.
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there's also this going specifically into gainswave:
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Has this angle of discussion penetrated this forum? Please watch the first video (or listen to it in the podcast version) and we should be talking about this.

This was the only thing that even came up when I searched for it.
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« Reply #573 on: June 20, 2017, 10:25:44 PM »

getting_there_in_oregon

HealthGains, Dr. Gaines, didn't find the time to answer to Nemo from February 17, 2017.
He was here just to make money!!!
Your links were deleted by a moderator, I suppose for good reasons. Are you a Dr. Gaines fan?

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« Reply #574 on: September 29, 2017, 07:15:33 PM »

I had the Priapus shot yesterday. Five injections total. Two on either side plus one in the glans. My penis is now all black from the bruising. They did the injections while I was erect (following a doppler ultrasound) and used 25g (usually for IM injections) needles. Is that the normal process? Seems a bit unnecessary. Why not use 30 or 31g needles and do it while flaccid?
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« Reply #575 on: September 29, 2017, 08:41:09 PM »

I am not 100% sure 31 comes in a long enough needle, but yeah they 100% should have used 30. If they'd come at my dick with a 25g I'd be out the door. It has also been confirmed with studies that the platelets come through a 30g needle with zero issues.

I have no idea about whether or not it should be erect or non erect.

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« Reply #576 on: September 30, 2017, 12:12:37 PM »

Tell us your results! = )
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« Reply #577 on: October 01, 2017, 02:20:39 AM »

Non of my PRP shots were done in erect state, it is not necessary to be erect.
The needle was 30, had no any bruising, a numbing cream before the injections, pain 1 on the scale of 10.

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« Reply #578 on: October 09, 2017, 06:54:33 PM »

Any news?
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« Reply #579 on: October 11, 2017, 04:56:19 PM »

Not yet. The Doc said it was going to take a minimum of 3 months before any possible effect would be seen.
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« Reply #580 on: October 11, 2017, 07:20:15 PM »

How is the bruising?

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« Reply #581 on: October 21, 2017, 09:55:48 AM »

Bump.
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« Reply #582 on: November 06, 2017, 05:40:14 PM »

Just curious if anyone has experienced significant hematoma with the priapus shot.  I finished up 4 rounds of Xiaflex several months ago with decent results but still have a bit of hourglassing and was wondering if the priapus shot might help.  I will say that the hematomas (had 3) from xiaflex was quite painful and a documented side effect of the procedure.  Really hoping to avoid that if I go the priapus route.  Thx.
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« Reply #583 on: November 06, 2017, 06:12:08 PM »

How many degrees of curve did you lose w the Xiaflex?
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« Reply #584 on: November 07, 2017, 08:51:24 AM »

Curved

I didn't had any hematoma, but also any gain I had (maybe imaginary) gone after a month.
Proposing you to read the links bellow:
PRIAPUS/PRP Injections Trial (forum) - Peyronies Society Forums
Debate on Pripapus/PRP efficiency for Peyronies - Peyronies Society Forums

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« Reply #585 on: November 08, 2017, 09:51:47 AM »

Tsanchez--- I had significant reduction with Xiaflex.  I went from 40 degree downward and to left curve to approx 10 degree downward.  Note that this is not typical success and is above average for the process.  I have not regained full length from prior to Peyronies Disease but am much straighter.  I highly recommend using traction as part of the protocol, although check with your DR.  Typically they will suggest manual stretching (different docs have slightl;y different protocols).  Finally be aware that hematomas are a potential side effect and these can be quite painful.  These are caused by nicking a blood vessel when the doc is spreading the Xiaflex in the plaque.
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« Reply #586 on: November 08, 2017, 09:53:05 AM »

James- Thanks for the feedback... will let everyone know how it goes.
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« Reply #587 on: November 24, 2017, 05:08:29 PM »

I had the Priapus shot yesterday. Five injections total. Two on either side plus one in the glans. My penis is now all black from the bruising. They did the injections while I was erect (following a doppler ultrasound) and used 25g (usually for IM injections) needles. Is that the normal process? Seems a bit unnecessary. Why not use 30 or 31g needles and do it while flaccid?
keep us informed about your situation please!
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« Reply #588 on: March 11, 2018, 09:38:21 PM »

Hi there,

I wonder how long the improvement on curvature made by priapus (or PRP) shot can last?

I just saw Dr. Robert's site http://www.roberthcohenmd.com/pshot.html.
It says:
"After a course of P-Shot treatments, patients experience a straightening of the penile shaft. The results are usually experienced within two weeks and may last up to a year."

Does that mean the Dr himself expects the improvement on curvature only lasts for a year?

It seems some members here experienced improvements on curvature after priapus (PRP) shot. Does that result stay?
I am considering to get a priapus shot, but I am very confused now. :-\

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« Reply #589 on: April 28, 2018, 08:45:18 AM »

Ihad this shot 2000.00 it didnt help
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« Reply #590 on: April 28, 2018, 12:20:46 PM »

Run the other direction, spend your money on treatments that have evidence of working.
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #591 on: April 29, 2018, 02:37:17 AM »

After PRP shots, the doctors pocket is straitening down from the weight of the $$$

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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #592 on: April 29, 2018, 12:12:09 PM »

LOL
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #593 on: May 10, 2018, 11:33:34 PM »

IhatePD, 10 in of HG is a measurement for vacuum just like PSI is a measurement for pressure. It stands for 10 inches of mercury. Dr Varano is located in Conshohocken PA. There is a list of Dr. performing this procedure here at this link

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. I had PRP shot done 3/2018. It cost $1900.00 and did. NOTHING !
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #594 on: May 15, 2018, 06:43:19 PM »

Well - that is unfortunate.

I am considering doing PRP for people with Peyronies Disease under my medical license (for very cheap - given I have Peyronies Disease, too, and don't want to make money off it), but this is not very encouraging.
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« Reply #595 on: May 15, 2018, 10:04:34 PM »

Christopher, if you’re able to offer it Low priced you might do it for those who have both ED and peyronies.  Chances are better it would improve ED and may help a few w peyronies.  It’s great you’re willing to help others!  tony
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #596 on: May 18, 2018, 03:40:33 PM »

Yes - I am going to do sexual medicine (internal medicine; not urology and urologic surgery). Just need to get my board-certification before I do.

People with Peyronies Disease can come in free. Not going to charge them.
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #597 on: June 12, 2018, 05:27:32 PM »

The priapus shot did nothing for me ,i got worse i dont know if disease was progressing was in my 13,14 month or the shot did it ,all i know is  it cost 2000.00
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #598 on: June 15, 2018, 08:18:21 PM »

Unfortunate. = /
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Re: Priapus shot
« Reply #599 on: June 18, 2018, 04:31:03 AM »

I am unfortunate also with the PRP :(
Luckily my prices were $100 to $200 for each treatment :)

James
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