DMSO and DMSO based Solutions

[Nemo]

Out of nostalgia, I was reading the thread on "Thacker's Formula."  I recall now that I used TF for about 9 months I believe, starting in Jan. of 2004.  At that time, I had some distal flacidity but no bend or pain.  I was using TF to see if it would do something to the scarring causing the distal flacidity.  It didn't, but it did improve my erections, very quickly in fact, as I recall.  I also remember bouts of skin blistering/peeling in the early days of using it - nothing bad enough to make me stop though.  Eventually, it seemed like it wasn't doing anything for me (other than the erection quality), so I stopped using it. 

Anyone else have memories (fond or otherwise) of Thacker's Formula?  I remember being very excited at the time as it was getting a lot of positive posts.  I really thought we were on to something!  Care to share your experience?

Nemo

[Tim468]

Dear Michael Baker

Thanks or sharing your thoughts. I was disappointed with the references - they are all anecdotal, and have no peer reviewed science. The reasons for this are well described by George, but in fact it IS possible to study non-patentable medications for other uses to "serve humanity", even though the profit motive is absent. I have participated in multi-center studies of Advil to treat chronic inflammation in cystic fibrosis, and no one was going to get rich doing that.

If someone is willing to try it, I hope to hear from them. I would be unwilling personally to try it. YMMV

Tim

[George999]

Sometimes a "product"s claims are just so off the wall that one has to sleep on the whole nine yards before beginning to really see whats there.  In the case of "activated" MMS as promoted by Jim Humble, I can only conclude this:  Most of the work done in Africa on this was done by "The Malaria Solution" based in Reno Nevada.  The guys behind Malaria Solution appear to have a mining/mineralogy background, money, and a passion to serve humanity.  Jim Humble seems to be the main innovator in this venture.  Personally, I would like to see a little press on this in Africa itself, but if it is indeed a scam, then they have scammed some pretty reputable people who seemingly are involved with them.  I see little motivation for a scam, since they have made this thing so open that there is little money to be made from it.  So the question becomes, "If this thing is so good, why has it not gotten more press and benefited more people?". 

I think there are indeed answers to that question.  First of all, one has to understand that in order for a treatment to be approved, lots of very expensive testing is required.  And this is not the kind of product that could bring forth that kind of investment easily.  Secondly, although I know that Chlorine Dioxide is considered safe at sufficient dilution, it is still a potent substance and this therapy introduces it to the body in a very reactive state.  That alone would scare regulators to death, or if it didn't it should.  Using it to treat dying villagers in Africa is one thing, using it for things like Peyronies in the US is another.  At this point, the reality is, we really have no data on what the potential initial random side effects might be, nor do we have long term data to indicate long term outcomes.

And that leads to a third concern for me.  If I was dying of HIV or even Cancer, I would latch on to something like this without a lot of hesitation.  But Peyronies?  Or foot fungus?  Some of you might be willing to chance it, but I can tell you, not me.  I would be looking at a lot more conservative treatments than that.

Yet another concern for me is the whole known pharmacology surrounding Chlorine Dioxide.  For those of you who might not understand what Chlorine Dioxide is, it is actually probably one of the most whiz bang wide spectrum pathogen killers known to man.  It destroys bacteria, viruses, fungi, and parasites.  Yet it does so in concentrations that are not discernibly toxic to people.  For this reason it is rapidly replacing common chlorination for water supplies and it is on the short list of potential solutions for Homeland Security people in the US.  It is even used to cleanse human blood of HIV.  But REMEMBER, current use is all OUTSIDE of the body.  This treatment, for the first time, moves that treatment to INSIDE the body.  Hello!

Another aspect to consider is that there is simply no known way that this treatment could work against NON-INFECTIOUS afflictions like Cancer, Peyronies, and other forms of Fibrosis, UNLESS that NON-INFECTIOUS disease is in fact driven by an infectious disease, and that can happen.  My suspicion is that Mr. Humble has seen Cancer knocked out with this stuff in Africa, but in reality, it knocked out the underlying HIV and THAT cured the Cancer.  I extremely doubt that it can cure a typical case of Cancer, because the underlying pharmacology is just not there, UNLESS all Cancers are pathogenic at the core and that would be a huge stretch.  And of course Peyronies would be in the same ballpark with Cancer, not likely.

So to sum up, the likelyhood of this working on Peyronies in my estimation is slim, and the risks are high with Jim's oral solution, but at least it has APPARENTLY been tried on a wide scale.  On the other hand, at this point it would seem that we have no more than a small handful of people, if that, who have actually tried administering it transdermally with DMSO.  Personally, I see all kinds of caution flags here.  I DEEPLY appreciate that Michael has shared this with us, and I do think it is something that needs to be investigated, but personally, I would proceed with a whole lot of caution.

- George

[Mick]

Hawk:

See miraclemineral.org

Mick

[MichaelBaker]

points taken hawk,

"Jim Humble MMS Protocol" a simple google search yields 1290 hits
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=jim+humble+mms+protocol.

This is a relatively new and unknown protocol. Very few have tried it, just seems to good to be true. There are a few forums for this protocol already, and it REALLY is beyond the scope of what I have time or inclination for. I do know that is seems to dissolve plaque and that is what ties it into Peyrones.

The activated MMS protocol combined with dmso, magnesium and iodine has only been tried by one person that I know, but then again, I am just an unknown name on the internet. I do freely offer up my time to provide what has worked for me and others I know personally, There are others in this forum already experimenting with DMSO, this is mainly for them, I feel that the MMS adds another potential booster for what they are trying to do. The magnesium and iodine are essential for healthy cell development. If this concontion is going to work, a week is probably all the time you would need to see improvement, milage will of course vary.

[Hawk]

Michael,

1.  Are you saying you have Peyronies Disease and this helped?

2. Have you gotten 5 men to try this on Peyronies Disease or for other things like nice feet?

3. If the 5 men had Peyronies Disease, what forum were they on?

4. I have been on every Peyronies Disease forum around for a some years and I never heard of Jack Humble.  Who is he and where did you meet him?


You must understand that you cannot say I am too busy to go into details, just try this undocumented concoction and trust the integrity of an unknown name on the internet.

[MichaelBaker]

I came to this forum to give back to society. I felt compelled to help others in a way that I was helped.

The real story is the MMS protocol by Jim Humble. I don't have the time to go into that side of it for this forum. The activated sodium chlorite is his and I have personally seen mind blowing results from it. I have gotten over a dozen people started on it. It is truly amazing stuff.

The mixture I came up with was trial and error, I burnt the side of my face for a week, but the age spot I applied it to has faded drastically, enough to not be noticable anymore. I actually made the formula to be applied to my feet. That is how I fine tuned what I put in it. My feet haven't look this good since I went to high school gym class and got some fungus that I never could get rid of, at least until now. My feet are soft and toenails look as healthy as ever.

The part of this that would apply to Peronies is what it did to my scar, raised and a hard white crest. It softened and is now pink and seems to be fading still. That is why I posted to this forum. I have had no erection problems.

I understand the fear of dmso. I did a lot of reading. I know that the finest race horses in the world get dmso and some of the greatest names in sports also covertly use the stuff. I would never perpetuate a hoax, at least I believe I am honest. My hope is that some brave soul out there tries this and gets results similar to mine and feels compelled to report back to the group and maybe a lot of you would have favorable results. I could at least tell St Pete that I did try to give back a little.

[George999]

Michael, welcome and thank you so much for sharing this information.  While I personally do not touch DMSO, I know a number of people who frequent this forum do.  And I am sure that there are some out there who are really looking for new approaches in using it.  Certainly what works for one person may not work for another AND what is harmless to one person might create a toxic reaction for another.  After all, even peanuts can be deadly to some of us.  It is also EXTREMELY important that it be used correctly to avoid potentially devastating unintended consequences.  So I fully understand your disclaimers and anyone planning on trying it should study its use very carefully including posts on this forum by Hawk and Liam.  And this is NOT to say don't use it, it is rather to say use it very cautiously and with great respect.  You are also dead on in noting that these types of approaches are anathema to the drug companies.  They are actually very up front in explaining that they could never make enough money from selling generic commodity based solutions to even begin to pay for the R+D that goes into getting any potential treatment approved.  And, unfortunately, our government(s) do(es) not consider public health a high enough priority to fund this type of research that private enterprise cannot profitably perform.  So all I can say is that I hope some daring individual will give it a try and hopefully it proves to be a breakthrough that can benefit many.  So thank you so much for posting the information.  - George

[Tim468]

Welcome Michael Baker,

Could you share how you came up with the ingredients that you did, and why the proportions?

Tim

[MichaelBaker]

Hello group,

I just joined after I was doing some research on DMSO. I have been using DMSO in a concoction I developed for a scar and joint pain. It has worked extremely well in removing plaque and lessening scarring. It is up to you to do your homework with these chemicals and decide for yourself if it is safe for you. I will assume no liability for your errors or lack of judgement.
I only ask that you report back with the results of your own experiments. Good or bad.

I am sure this post will be given very critical reveiw for the lack of previous knowledge on my experiment, but I am sure that this will work for your affliction also (Peyronies). The DMSO is only one part of the mixture, but it is important.

Possibly more important is a product now called MMS. It is sodium chorite %28 solution, activated with lemon juice. If you can get past all the miraculous claims and try it, it has been reported to strip the plaque from clogged arteries. please go slow on this off you have any heart problems. If you want to try it before you put it anywhere special, try brushing your teeth with it for a week and see if your dental plaque is gone.

To strengthen cells and heal scarring I use a transdermal magnesium oil. I have bought it from Global Light, I dont get paid for this, buy it where you want, just make sure that you get the natural oil and not the jell.

I use natural iodine in the solution, it also promotes healthy cell function.

I use 99.9 DMSO, again buy it where you want.

Now the recipe.

20 drops of MMS

add 100 drops of lemon juice, real lemon from the plastic lemon at the grocery store works great.

let these two ingredients sit for three minutes and the acid from the lemon juice will react with the MMS. There will be a very strong smell of Chlorine gas from the reaction.
Now add one tablespoon of the magnesium oil
Now add one tablespoon of the DMSO
Now add one dropper of the iodine

stir, you will feel heat from the mixing of these things, try it on some tender skin and look for an adverse reaction. If your skin is to sensitive for the solution at 100% dilute with a small amount of distilled water.

when you get the strength that wont burn willie apply and let sit, do this as many times per day that you are able. As long as the solution has that chlorine smell it will be working, discard after the smell of chlorine is no longer present.

I am sure that the flames will be coming, but if just one or two of you try this and report back with your "cure" then the others will follow suit.

I make no claim as to being anything other than the developer of this recipe and place it freely in the public domain for all to use for personal use only. I assume no liability for any results that you may have. We just may have to develope our own health remedies when the drug companies cannot make enough profit from easily obtainable homeopathic remedies such as this.

Michael Baker

[soiDisant]

Thanks for the welcome, Hawk.

I was indeed aware that the "1000 posts" thread was a restored archive. But your comment has me wondering whether or not DMSO has fallen "out of favor" for forum members; and if so, why?

[Hawk]

soiDisant,

Welcome to the forum.  I pretty much agree with your assessment

If it doesn't wor, it doesn't work; so long as it does no harm.

The other 1000 post thread was an achieve retrieved after it was deleted from a forum that is now pretty much dead.   Since it is an old archive, I think you will actually find few active members still around that use it although a few probably do.

[soiDisant]

All,

I've read this thread and the other (1000 posts) related to DMSO. The only problem I see in trying the stuff is the potential for permanent damage. I might be wrong - it was alot to read, after all - but I saw no posts complaining of such damage. If it doesn't wor, it doesn't work; so long as it does no harm.

But at least one person complained about diminished erectile function while using DMSO. Can others weigh in on their experience of DMSO from this perspective? I would be most grateful to glean some kind of consensus WRT the stuff's potential for impairing erectile function. 

Thanks.

[Liam]

Sorry Soxfan.  I call it like I see it.  My post represents my opinion just as yours do.  Although I am stongly opposed to this concoction, I would not want to remove the topic.  I am also glad you post your opinion on it.

If in the more than two years I have been posting here and reading about Thackers I had heard of one legitimate scientific study showing positive results, I might be singing a different tune.

This and the fact DMSO is a transdermal agent is the reason I will not try it. 

Go ahead and try it.  Just understand there are those who think its a hoax.  And, if it turns out to be the cure, I will eat crow, happily.

[soxfan]

If anyone wishes to discuss the Thacker formula without being subjected to ridicule from people who have not used the DAMNED thing then please contact me via pm, THANKS!!!!

[Liam]

I have heard from a veterinarian that it can be demonstrated that certain dyes can be put on the palm of the hand and when DMSA is added the color will penetrate to the back of the hand.  I do know that you can often literally taste DMSO within a minute of getting it on your hands.

Now mix with vinegar and castor oil and soak your penis...

Hawk is right to encourage using caution.

This "formula" is ridiculous.  Use the DMSO to clean your floors, the vinegar (ACV) on your salad and...well... you know what the casto oil is good for.

I'm glad this info is here and you are free to try it.  I just have to throw in my objections.

BTW, I have a formula: Windex and olive oil (OO) for a "Big Fat Greek Penis" 

[Hawk]

DMSO is a transdermal agent.  It will transport ANYTHING & EVERYTHING below a certain molecular weight into the tissue.  That could include everything from contaminants on your hands to dyes in any cloth that come in contact with it.

I have heard from a veterinarian that it can be demonstrated that certain dyes can be put on the palm of the hand and when DMSA is added the color will penetrate to the back of the hand.  I do know that you can often literally taste DMSO within a minute of getting it on your hands.

Wash your skin where applying it, as well as your hands, and make sure there are no dyes or contaminates on any cloth that comes in contact with the DMSO.

Wash your hands when finished to get any DMSO off before handling other things that could have chemical contaminates.

[whygodwhy]

thanks guys, ill go ahead and order the 99.9% DMSO

im looking forward to trying out the thacker's formula.  i read in a post that dmso can be risky, is that true?  i know its bad to get in your eyes or swallow (ie common sense)  but if i do it wrong somehow could it make my Peyronies Disease worse?

[soxfan]

im not sure whether or not i should buy the 16 oz dmso listed below or pay extra for a brand from peyronies-disease-help.com that has msm and paba in it as well:

http://www.natural-complementary-medicine.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=18

its twice as much money for a quater the amount

will a cheaper brand thats 99% pure work just as well?
and does it matter if i get gel or spray or concentrate?

WGW,

Just get the plain 99.9 dmso just as Thacker himself suggested. The ms, paba and other stuff is not necessary.

Cheers.

[Liam]

WGW,

IMHO, You will get the same results from either. 

[whygodwhy]

im not sure whether or not i should buy the 16 oz dmso listed below or pay extra for a brand from peyronies-disease-help.com that has msm and paba in it as well:

http://www.natural-complementary-medicine.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=18

its twice as much money for a quater the amount

will a cheaper brand thats 99% pure work just as well?
and does it matter if i get gel or spray or concentrate?

[Hawk]

I am open minded but I did not see the specifics of ONE SINGLE study.  If those unbelievable statements are true, there must be a ton of information available on the studies, the details of what controls were in place, the results, etc.

If you know of any such documented studies by reputable, unbiased sources, please give us the unformation.

If you don't, then it remains nothing but another outlandish internet claim.

[soxfan]

Gents,

The following article about dmso is a must read, imho.

DMSO’s Many Potential Medical Applications
Since the early 1960s, DMSO’s pharmacological actions and efficacy have been documented in hundreds of laboratory studies. According to Dr. Stanley Jacob, DMSO holds promise in treating the following conditions:

Alzheimer’s disease. DMSO has been shown to dissolve amyloids, the proteins that occur in the hallmark brain lesions of patients with Alzheimer’s and almost invariably lead to the functional loss and eventual death of brain cells.

Arthritis. With its ability to penetrate tissues, DMSO shows value in reducing pain and inflammation in osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, and possibly gout.

Atherosclerosis. In laboratory animals, DMSO has demonstrated its ability to retard the development of atherosclerosis induced by dietary cholesterol, as well as suppress the accumulation of cholesterol in tissues despite severe hypercholesterolemia (elevated blood levels of cholesterol).

Down’s syndrome. Researchers have noted that when children born with Down’s syndrome were treated with DMSO, mental and neurological functions improved in a number of areas.

Drug extravasation injury. When chemotherapy drugs exude into surrounding tissues (extravasate), the effects are highly damaging. DMSO application significantly improved anthracycline-associated extravasation tissue injury in a study conducted by Stephen B. Strum, MD, a member of the Life Extension Foundation’s Scientific Advisory Board.

Fibromyalgia. According to Dr. Jacob, 70% of fibromyalgia patients he treated with DMSO for several years experienced benefits with no side effects. He believes these effects were due to pharmacological actions of DMSO such as free-radical scavenging, analgesia, anti-inflammation, softening of scar tissue, reduction of muscle spasms, and stimulation of healing.

Herpes. DMSO has been used to enhance penetration of alpha-interferon ointment in the treatment of herpes.

Interstitial cystitis. Instilling DMSO in the urinary bladder is an FDA-approved palliative treatment for this chronic inflammatory condition.

Malignancy. Researchers concluded DMSO exerts a significant survival advantage in gastric cancer.

Plastic surgery adjunct. DMSO has been shown to aid healing and reduce pain and swelling.

Prostatitis. Significant symptomatic relief occurred when DMSO was injected by catheter into the prostatic urethra.

Reflex sympathetic dystrophy. DMSO helps relieve the pain of this condition, an autonomic nervous system disorder characterized primarily by overwhelming pain in the extremities. Dr. Jacob notes that in Holland, a physician is breaking the law if he does not prescribe topical DMSO for reflex sympathetic dystrophy.

Scleroderma. In basic work done at the Cleveland Clinic, topical DMSO was found to have an anti-inflammatory effect while increasing blood supply to the skin.

Spinal cord injury. Data shows that if DMSO is given intravenously within the first 45-60 minutes after injury, the number of laboratory animals that recover was much higher than in those not receiving DMSO. Dr. Jacob says this is an area he would like to pursue, noting, “If we have 10,000 severe spinal cord injuries per year in the US—quadriplegic and paraplegic—there could be fewer patients who will need long-term care.”

Stroke. DMSO combined with a sugar that fuels energy production was well tolerated in elderly stroke patients, and could be of benefit in reducing neurological disability after stroke.

Ulcerative colitis. In controlled human studies, orally administered DMSO produced some improvement in the condition.
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/jul2007_cover_dmso_02.htm

bodoo2u,

I get my dmso(99.9% pure, 16oz liquid)  from the following on-line retailer. I of course have no affiliation with the company, just trying to be of help.
http://www.herbalremedies.com/dmso.html?source=google&engine=adwords!32&keyword=%28dmso%29&match_type=&gclid=CJym6rzQpo8CFQGdPAodqkIcRw

Cheers.



 

[bodoo2u]

Hawk,

I didn't mean to write "cure"; I know it's just a treatment that may or may not yield results. I still may or may not use it, especially if it causes scarring. Heck, It's funny-looking enough without adding scars to it.

Liam,

Thanks for reposting the instructions. You guys are the greatest.

Hey, I'm getting more comfortable with weating my traction device under my clothes. I guess I look like an old man when I'm trying to climb stairs, because I don't lift up my legs very high. LOL

[Liam]

Here is a post from Barry who personally spoke with Thacker.  Thacker claimed to be 90% cured.    It took me 2 minutes to find this post just by scrolling back through older posts.  For the sake of disclosure and honesty, I am not a believer in this method.  But, this is the 411 

By request I am posting a newly revised version of the Thacker Formula to this topic.


Thacker Formula-Revised…12/17/05

An Informational,

My communications with Thacker confirmed much of what was believed from the little information initially given. The discussions covered the following, Thackers use and results of his Grandfathers Formula…..Doctor Thacker, Thacker stated that Peyronies Disease starting with Doctor Thacker, who suffered from Peyronies Disease, as well as his uncles, father and himself. It seems to indicate in theory that Thackers family from his Grandfather to himself had a Genetic Pre-Disposition to this disease. Thacker indicated to me that DMSO and its quality was of the utmost importance, as expressed to him by Doctor Thacker and clarified many times. Unfortunatly, the source of Doctor Thackers DMSO is unknown. This does not negate the other two ingredients in any way and their importance to the formula. Thacker confirmed the 70%-20%-10% mixture as what was used by him. Thacker did stress that a high quality Apple Cider Vinegar be used, I told him that many men were using organic ACV and he did not agree nor disagree, but additional research indicated and confirmed that Organic ACV should be used. Castor Oil is generic in nature, so any brand will do. Thacker said that his Grandfather used the formula on men with Dupuytrens Contracture, aka (DC), he did not mention results, but it was used never the less.

Taking nothing from Thacker, it must be understood that he was for the most part a “user” of this formula, and did not in fact know much as to what the components did or why. His Grandfather mixed it for him; Doctor Thacker pre-mixed the formula, and gave it to him as needed with instructions on how to apply it.



I suggest strict self-obedience with the treatment and trust that it will work. It takes some time.
You must keep the wrap soaked during application.
The garlic odor from the application could be bathed off and a scented cream such as Aloe Vera applied to the penis after application, but the internal odor that omits through the skin pores and breath, is something you have to live with, and I can only suggest strong breath mints and wear cologne to envelop the smell. That will usually cover it. My own personal research has concluded that gently massaging the plaque after application is acceptable as long as it does not incur pain. Do this for about five-ten minutes.


THE FOLLOWING IS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM THACKER TO ME

QUOTE
“I usually followed my evening application with a hot bath and massaged the plaque forcefully but not painfully. It took about three to four months for me to start seeing results and then positive results started coming quickly. The hard nodules will suddenly start getting soft. They may break apart. Once that starts happening things improve fast. You should realize increased erection quality right off the bat. The DMSO
will smooth the muscle in the penis.”
“Once the hard nodules start getting soft or breaking up into bits. It took about six more months of application and message to finish it off. My penis then healed almost back to pre-Peyronies Disease. I would say that I am 90% where I was. I no longer have any hard pieces of plaque in my penis. I have one small indentation left where a huge piece of plaque was that did not heal all the way back. The curve will reduce slowly as plaque resolves. I started with a 50 degree curve when it was at its worse, and now, no noticeable curve”
END QUOTE


Mixing Procedure,

You MUST, wash your hands with any type of hand or body soap prior to the mixing process.
The formula CAN be premixed. How many days in advance were not discussed with Thacker but all indications lead to 3-5 days. The premixed batch must be sealed when not in use and kept at room temperature. (DO NOT refrigerate premixed batches). The formula is comprised of 70%DMSO-20%Apple Cider Vinegar-10%Castor OIL. In order to mix the formula use three separate 10cc syringes and draw the liquid up to the 1, 2, or 7 mark depending on the liquid. Then squirt each one into a small glass bowl and mix well with an eyedropper.


Application Method.

Warm the formula prior to use; this should be common to its application. Soak the mixture on a flannel sheet of cloth (NO coloring, MUST be white) or an appropriately sized strip of sterilized gauze. Wrap the cloth completely around the penis, then to hold it in place use white medical tape, rubber bands or uncolored string. Do this application once daily (the evening hours would be preferable to most), and as consistently as possible through the week. The duration in time should not be less then 1/2 hour, although 1-2 hours is favored. DO NOT refrigerate pre- mixed batches, if you do, throw that batch away. Also, if you get redness or blistering, discontinue use and apply Diaper Rash Medicine or Aloe Vera to ease the problem and correct it. Once corrected continue treatment.


CAUTION!
DMSO is a very safe solvent when purchased in a pharmaceutical grade of at least 99.96% purity.
While the bottle is open and/or the batch is being pre-mixed be very cautious and not get it into you eyes. If you do go the nearest E.R, they will know how to treat you with an eyewash.
Also, pure DMSO is not to be taken internally. The same conditions apply as to the above remedy.

DMSO is a very powerful delivery agent, meaning that it will transfer thru your skin and into your body anything on your hands, so it MUST be used under Sterile Conditions.


DMSO on line Purchase Sites,

www.webvitamin.com Natures gift
www.lifesvigor.com Natures Gift
www.herbalremedies.com Clinic Service Co.
www.kornax.com Rich’s



I am not a Doctors and do not profess to be, I am however, an avid researchers and bring this treatment to you with no promise of efficacy but, but most assuredly a sparkle of hope.
This formula is an ALTERNATIVE, non-Medicinal treatment. Years of research have been invested by me and another Peyronies Disease survivor who’s research efforts played a solid role in putting this formula together thus allowing me to put this formula in writing for all Peyronies Disease sufferers to try. Your Doctors may attempt to convince you that the use of this treatment is flippant; the ultimate decision to use this treatment is up to you. The general statement Doctors use is, “it has no basis in science”, to that I say, tell that to the many men who have had efficacious results. Also, there are NO RX contraindications to this formula and it’s not invasive. Used as directed, it is as dangerous as taking an aspirin.


Good Luck,
Barry, aka, PDFTD,
Peyronies Disease researcher,Advocate and Survivor for 12 years  
 

[Hawk]

I don't think the very strongest promoters of 'Thacker" would ever refer to it as a "cure"!

[Liam]

What is the rationale for this working?  In other words, what is in it that could possibly work?

Just a thought.....If you used Balsamic vinegar, would you get a "woodie"?

[bodoo2u]

OK, this is messing with my head, I mean it's just too much for me to understand. I thought the Thackers Formula was some type of multi-component formula and here it is just three ingredients. I know where to get castor oil and the Bragg's ACV because i frequent healthfood stores. But where do I get the type of DMSO that is most recommended for curing Peyronies Disease. Is there a specific mixture? Please Help!! And yes, I will read the entire formula before i apply it, but I just want to know what to buy so I can get it in the house and have it ready. 

[Hawk]

Tim,

Now that you bring it up,what is the molecular weight of lipstick?  It could possibly be carried into the tissue.   

[Tim468]

I may try that - though I expect a fall-off in the frequency of evening fellatio.

Tim