Quack diagnosed Peyronie's, he hardly looked at it! Is it true?

[SamGamgee]

Hello,

I'm 25. About a year ago I noticed a hard cord in the shaft of the penis, and a lump right below the head (about 1/3 the size of a BB.). This was after rigorous masturbation. I also noticed I suddenly needed a lot of stimulation to get my head 100% erect/full.

I wen't away on it's own, but now one year later, after another vigorous masturbation session, it's back. Now there are two small lumps, and two cord-like "veins" or something on my shaft, going about 3/4 of the way to the head.

So I went to the doctor, and told him I have these two cords and lumps on penis, and showed him my flaccid penis. He looked at it for a couple of seconds, didn't even touch the one cord I feel when flaccid, and casually diagnosed me with Peyronie's! I had read about the disease before and was shocked. He acted like it was nothing. Didn't even refer me to a urologist.

I can feel the big cord when soft, and the smaller side-cord when slightly erect and more. I don't have any noticeable curvature.

I am so worried I have tried not masturbating for a week, and it got slightly better, but came back with vengeance as soon as i gently masturbated.

I have almost no pain. I only really feel it when I put my finger on it, and press on it, moving it from side to side. The big cord goes from behind the root right up the almost top of my penis, and the smaller on goes from the root and up and then around the left side. The small cord is obviously a vein, as I can clearly feel my heartbeat, whenever I press it.

[LWillisjr]

Samgamgee,

First of all....  A urologist CANNOT diagnose you with Peyronies without some type of examination. I spoke to another person on this forum who also had a urologist tell him "You must have Peyronies" after only talking to him and the symptom being some pain during erection. After my suggestion of going to another doctor, was finally diagnosed as having a slipped disc and pinched nerve....... NOT PEYRONIES.

You need to find another doctor ASAP!

[SamGamgee]

Hi Iwillisjr. Yes, I agree. Altough keep in mind this was a doctor, not even a urologist. Horribly apathetic doctor. I have switched doctors now, and will visit another one on monday. He will probably refer me to a urologist which is a long wait where I live

Until I can get a doctor to diagnose me: Does anyone on this forum recognize this hard cord/vein running almost all the way up the middle of my (top side) penis? Is it an early sign of Peyronie's?

[guyincog]

The worst thing you can do is self diagnose, try to search the net for answers, ask us what it is.

There's a reason doctors spend so much time learning medicine.  Google and other resources are great for diagnosing tech issues or looking up facts but medicine and the human body is a VERY complicated and organic thing.  The only one who can help you is a doctor.

If you are worried, and especially if you have any pain go to the ER room.  In my experience when I said 'I have pain in my penis' they fast tracked me to a doctor, like literally 5 minutes and I was seeing someone.  I'm assuming you're not in the US so you have nothing to lose by heading to the ER and getting an answer - and certain penis issues are very time sensitive.

Best of luck, try not to freak out too much and stop trying to figure this out yourself.  Get professional help.

[Hawk]

We have no way to know.  What is obvious is that if you remain close to the way you are, you have no reason to obsess over this.  Your curve is well within normal range but obviously you need to know if you have Peyronies Disease or not.

When I am very flaccid and stretched out wearing traction, I can feel all kinds of structures in my penis.  I could describe them as cord like, nodule like, etc.  The problem is that I never spent 15 minutes palpating my stretched flaccid penis before Peyronies Disease, and I have never handled any other penis so I have no point of reference.  I am left a bit puzzled by what I feel.

Penis anatomy clearly contains large veins near the surface.  Peyronies Disease has little to do with veins.  It does not change their size or structure.  If you are feeling a vein, that likely has nothing to do with Peyronies Disease.

Until your appointment, and from now on, you would be well advised to NOT have ROUGH masturbation sessions.

[guyincog]

You would be advised to have no masturbation sessions.

The typical advice if someone hurts their penis is something like 3 months of no touching if I recall correctly.

[SamGamgee]

Thanks for your well-thought out replies.

Guyincog: Maybe I should try to abstain completely from masturbation for three months, but the thing is I don't feel any pain so it might be excessive.

Hawk: I don't masturbate roughly anymore, after this experience. It's just not worth the risk for me. Good point about the veins. I've studied some penile anatomy online tonight, and found out that the palpable cord might just be the dorsal superficial vein (vein on middle top-side of penis) that I can feel. I've read that some other guys can feel it too.
I don't know about the lumps though, and why the left smaller cord feels much harder and more wiry/stringy.

I will still see the doctor on monday, to get this confirmed, and to figure out whether the other doctor was actually right about peyronie's or not. I must know.

[Hawk]

You would be advised to have no masturbation sessions.

The typical advice if someone hurts their penis is something like 3 months of no touching if I recall correctly.

I actually am not at all sure that is the advice.  I know of no doctor that prohibits all sexual activity due to Peyronies Disease.  That might be the advice with a penile fracture but erections and gentle sexual stimulation are usually considered healthy.

[ComeBacKid]

The good news is your penis doesn't even look bent.  And to the canadian guy, I disagree, some docs don't know crap about peyronies, i had a few of them, nor do they care to learn more.  My penis feels weird to in certain parts, theres a ridge right under the head sometimes, all penises will not be exactly the same, and feel the same.  The main questions are, are you losing size?  Is your erection becoming less full?  Do you have any pain or aching?  These are common among peyronie sufferers.  Obstaining from masturbation might sound good on paper, but lets face it few guys do this, and actually no erections is NOT good,  you want to get erections, just don't jerk off obsessively, or roughly.   Erections are healthy and bring oxygen to the penile tissues.  I would keep an eye on your penis, if you notice any of those symptoms, or hardening of the penis, especially when erect, you could have Peyronies.  If so go find a urologist to give you pentox, that stuff works!

Kid

[guyincog]

There is advice on this forum about no erections being bad for you.  That's what I mean about not taking advice from the internet.

We get erections during our sleep naturally, roughly once every 1.5 hours.  You'll be getting them.   That being said I know that the typical medical advice when you injure your penis is 3 months no sex/masturbation.  Again, don't take my advice or anyone else's advice:

FIND A GOOD DOCTOR AND LISTEN TO THEM.  The internet has so much info on it you think it's got all the answers.  IT DOESN'T.  Medicine is completely different from finding prices on cars or reviews on restaurants or even life experience like this forum.  Get thee to a doctor and stop asking us for medical advice.  We can only share our experience but it will not give you the answers which will prevent you from hurting yourself further and it could make things worse.

BTW all that being said, your problem looks eerily similar to mine.  I don't think I had peyronies, I may have had a very very minor fracture.  Over time I think I aggravated it by jerking off/sex and made things much worse.  I had the same chord which I think was just a vein/artery that was more prominent than usual for whatever reason (or I noticed it more because of the other stuff). NONE OF THIS IS A REPLACEMENT FOR REAL MEDICAL ADVICE.  FIND SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT THE F^@% THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.  WE CAN ONLY HELP YOU WITH SHARED EXPERIENCE, THERE IS NO ADVICE ON THIS FORUM THAT WILL TELL YOU ANYTHING USEFUL UNLESS YOU HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC DIAGNOSIS FROM A TRAINED PROFESSIONAL.

Edit: dude reading your description it's EERILY similar.  Honestly, I think it was the masturbation or something, that's how mine happened.  DO NOT MASTURBATE FURTHER.  I did and my symptoms progressed and ended up incapacitating me for over a year.  I honestly believe I had a fracture of some kind - because it was near the head it didn't swell up.  Did you ever hit yourself or have a really painful experience?  ANYHOW, again, none of this is worth analyzing over the internet.  Do not take ANY of this as helpful advice.  Like I said, our generation is so used to finding everything we need on the internet (wikipedia, reddit, etc) that we are used to getting our answers here.  TALK TO A DOCTOR.  GET AN ULTRASOUND.  GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM (frankly) - penis injuries can be very time sensitive.  You are from a universal healthcare country, use it.  If it were me I'd be going to the ER, at the very least they can MRI or ultrasound you and confirm no fracture.  When I went I was literally seeing a doctor in 5 minutes, that's how serious trauma to the penis can be.  And if I had any advice it would be to stop masturbating for quite a while....it can't hurt.  There is advice on this forum to masturbate to 'stretch' things but I think that only applies to those with scar tissue or whatever.  I really think it's terrible advice in general for penis related trauma.

[Hawk]

Guyincog,

Your post is strange in that you spend 2 paragraphs giving advice and then 2 paragraphs saying don't take advice??  You seem to assume others are giving bad advice then proceed to assume his injury is like yours.  Keep in mind that just because you masturbated and got worse dose not mean masturbation cased you to get worse and it certainly does not mean your situation applies to Sam.

Also, just for my own personal knowledge, can you document the source that says no masturbation for 3 months if you have Peyronies Disease.  I am interested in reading that study or checking out the doctor  that allegedly recommends that.  In truth I am very skepticle that you can verify such a claim because doctors I have spoken to ( including one well known Peyronies Disease specialist) do not advise to stop sex in any reasonable form.

I do agree that a thorough diagnosis is in order.

[guyincog]

Yeah, I realize how hypocritical my post was.  I was basically just trying to show how bad a place for info the net is - some people say 'masturbate' some people say 'don't masturbate', some will say 'peyronies' while other 'penis fracture'.  Etc.  I want to scare the crap out of him and tell him it might be something that needs emergency attention (and to be fair, it really does sound similar - I had some minor pain and focused on the chords when really it was likely the pain that made me pay attention to normal anatomy like those veins in the first place).

Pain = bad is I think all I can really say, and I think pain != peyronies.  Only a doctor can tell for sure.

I just remember reading on reddit some IAmA's where people talked about penis fractures or injuries and it healed after the doctor said '3 months no touchy touchy'.  If I come across them I'll post them here.

[james1947]

Guyincog

Sorry to say but you posts on this thread are confusing me.
It may be because my poor English.
Maybe you can make a summary of them,
or
Can you at least let us know the source of:

You would be advised to have no masturbation sessions.
The typical advice if someone hurts their penis is something like 3 months of no touching if I recall correctly.

James

[Skjaldborg]

SamGamgee,

Got this at 29, so I know it's tough to get this at a young age. Fortunately, like me you may have a more mild form of Peyronie's. I went to a specialist urologist in the US, got on pentox and saw some positive results in pain reduction in a very short time. After about 1 year I noticed the scar tissue had shrank significantly and I had regained some of my original shape. I'm not 100% what I once was, but my erections are 100% normal and sex is no problem at all. Furthermore:

- You do not need to stop masturbating. Just be gentle and use lots of lube. The blood flow and erectile stretching that occurs during sexual activity is good for you. Only stop if it hurts.

- Get on pentox. It works.

- Focus on your hobbies and keeping yourself fit and healthy. Don't let Peyronie's take over your life. It's not worth it.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Skjaldborg

P.S. Unrelated: imgur, huh? Narwhal, bacon, etc.

[SamGamgee]

Hi again all,

Thank you for your kind words, and advice.

I have not been able to see a doctor today. Will try again tomorrow. I feel almost ZERO PAIN in my penis, and nothing related to erections or the cord, so I think this cord is indeed just part of my penile structure. Especially after looking online at pictures of other penises with the same cord.

I will still follow up with a doctor though, because I don't want this peyronie's diagnose (however misplaced it MAY be) hanging over my head.

Also one thing guyincog: Thanks for your well-meant advice, but you don't need to be so condescending saying things like "I want to scare the crap out of him and tell him it might be something that needs emergency attention" because I am full aware of the limits of advice from the internet. I will say this though, on the subject of peyronie's, there is no doctor or urologist within a 1.000 miles from me, that is more knowledgable and dedicated to the subject then this community. They just don't have the real-life experience, and related knowledge this community has, and that is why no matter what any doctor tells me (such as the one that first diagnosed me) I will always want to draw on the invaluable experience of a community such as this one to research the subject. Thanks again for your advice and kind words.

[guyincog]

Sorry didnt mean to be condescending.  I didn't take my own advice and ended up in this position so I just wanted to make sure no one else made that mistake.