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Re: Ultrasound & Extracorporeal Shockwave Therapy (ESWT)
« Reply #100 on: October 31, 2010, 01:50:40 AM »

Dun4Life - You mentioned you had bought a machine to do this at home. What was the brand/specs and ballpark pricerange? Are we looking at thousands or hundreds?

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« Reply #101 on: November 01, 2010, 05:55:55 PM »

I'm very interested in possibly getting one of these home ultrasound machines. Expecially if my upcoming ultrasound diagnostic tests prove I have scar tissue. I can't use VED's so I need some kind of physical, external treatment to join my internal, oral regime.

What you guys think abotu this 3 mhz little beauty:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-PORTABLE-3-MHZ-ULTRASOUND-MACHINE-THERAPY-MASSAGER-/250720050259?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a60145c53

There is also 1mhz and 5mhz avaliable. I think the lower the frequency, the deeper it penetrates.
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« Reply #102 on: November 01, 2010, 10:24:04 PM »

Well the requirements of the machine would really need to be found out by reading the full texts of successful studies. I'm having trouble finding studies run on ESWT that actually show positive results.

I first got interested in this when I read about a study showing great results in treating ED, but I cannot for the life of me find that study now.

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« Reply #103 on: January 23, 2011, 12:11:23 AM »

Hey everyone...

Take a look at this (old but) interesting article!  Any thoughts?  is anyone doing ultrasound in the states, specifically New York?

British doctors discover cure for the 'Clinton kink'
By Roger Dobson
Sunday, 1 July 2001

British scientists stabilised Pisa's famous leaning tower. Now British doctors have devised a solution for a more delicate angle of deviation.

British scientists stabilised Pisa's famous leaning tower. Now British doctors have devised a solution for a more delicate angle of deviation.

Hi-tech relief is now available for the thousands of men suffering from Peyronie's disease, the bent-penis syndrome that reportedly affects Bill Clinton, the former US president. Until now, the only successful treatment has involved surgery – and a shorter penis.

Peyronie's disease is caused by a build up of collagen or fibrous tissue on one side which causes the penis to bend up to 90 degrees. Sexual intercourse is difficult, painful or even impossible.

The syndrome – named after the French doctor who first spotted it – came to public attention in 1997 when Paula Jones brought her sexual harassment case against Clinton. She claimed in her evidence that the ex-president had a distinguishing kink.

Now, doctors at three hospitals in England are reporting success with ultrasound, which breaks up the fibrous area and allows it to expand normally. In trials reported in the British Journal of Urology, the doctors reduced the bend in all but one patient. Almost half were able to resume sexual intercourse.

"The results show that this therapy produces a significant improvement in pain and penile angle with no serious complications," says Dr Rebecca Hamm of the Royal Torbay Hospital
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« Reply #104 on: March 15, 2011, 05:57:19 PM »

I work as a nurse in a french hospital in the uurologic ward. I have talk with two surgeon and their answer were the same.
ESWT is sometimes useful for pain in the first phase of peyronie but that's all.

I was happy to find men who use this device, but they only reserve it for nephrology;
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« Reply #105 on: March 15, 2011, 11:51:23 PM »

I read a study done 25 years ago that ultrasound did absolutely nothing for Peyronie's. Though I do not know why someone would fabricate such a thing, I believe it.If it were a cure as someone here on the forum for a short period told me ,could you keep it from the world?

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« Reply #106 on: April 03, 2011, 10:07:34 AM »

Is anyone using ultrasound at home for Peyronies Disease?  And if so, how?  Where di you get the machine?   I heard one or tow positive things about it.  Thx!
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« Reply #107 on: April 03, 2011, 12:48:13 PM »

Here is a web site for Ultra Sound machines.  Give it a try.
I am not using it but have had some discussion with other members.

www.lgmedicalsupply.com/sonicator715

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« Reply #108 on: August 03, 2011, 01:20:48 AM »

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« Reply #109 on: August 03, 2011, 10:36:09 PM »

This dude wrote me the exact same message in my inbox... UMMmmm
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« Reply #110 on: August 10, 2011, 11:36:14 AM »

I received a couple of emails from a Boston Boston 101 last night. He used my full name he must have hacked my email account.He said he had been banned from the forum and did not know not why.He asked me if I could tell him what happened. I never new this Guy or have seen him on the forum.

His first email was about some laser treatment with a link to biomedical. The second was a letter. he sent to the administration using my mame telling them that I could attest that his information and his intensions are good.Like I said I have know idea who this Guy is.So now I have hidden my email.

Laser treatment really! What a joke.

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« Reply #111 on: October 28, 2011, 04:45:32 PM »

Is anyone using ultrasound at home for Peyronies Disease?  And if so, how?  Where di you get the machine?   I heard one or tow positive things about it.  Thx!

NYC, sorry for the delayed response. My care provider uses a Rich-Mar Therasound 3.5 http://www.integritybiomedical.ca/node/63
Looks like it goes for $1000-$2000. My PA said he would help me with suggestions and settings if I was to get one. I am holding off
for now as my current Peyronies Disease/penile status is still TBD from overly aggressive tension device usage.

All-in-all, ultrasound is a great option with real results. VED should be used in conjunction with ultrasounds, especially right after your
treatments to maximize your benefits. It is relatively affordable (IMO) at just $25/session, but not many places even offer it :(
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Re: Ultrasound & Extracorporeal Shockwave Therapy (ESWT)
« Reply #112 on: April 21, 2012, 08:44:50 PM »

I talk with my uro again about ESWT. He told me that some people had good results in braking up the scar tissue, as to broke kidney and bladder stones. I am ready to give a try, but the catch is they don't have in the hospital the equipment for that. They can brake kidney stones and bladder stones, but need a different device for penis & Peyronie's.

Have some idea? It helps? Should I invest in buying one? The device can have some other usages?
Any answer will be appreciated.

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« Reply #113 on: April 22, 2012, 02:59:20 AM »

As far as I can remember in all the studies I read it has no real effect on curvature, but can help with pain.
on the other hand, I have never seen these devices other than hospital grade.
Yes they also exist in portable..
here is a link to a professional medical supply store .
http://www.quirumed.com/en/Catalogo/ver/2074/Sto%C3%9Fwellentherapieger%C3%A4te
they have 2 models.. (the prices are in Euro) the cheaper one is around $13.000 the other one nearly the double.

Who buys such stuff.. well doctors for their practice. as in most european countries schockwawe therapy (the one for kidney stones is, we are talking the one for tennis elbow etc...) is not paid for buy social insurance (not even private ones), drs buy these for their practice. For example in my private insurance all therapy at my doctors practice is paid for.

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« Reply #114 on: April 22, 2012, 03:34:59 AM »

Thanks Luciano

I will keep the money for implant.

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« Reply #115 on: September 05, 2012, 08:37:32 AM »

Does anyone know a doctor in NYC area that does Ionpheresis?

Thanks,
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« Reply #116 on: March 03, 2013, 07:30:33 AM »

I've read through this thread and I may have missed it but I couldn't see a link to this study done in Greece that dates back to 2005 but sounds positive about shockwave therapy from what I can gather
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« Reply #117 on: December 22, 2015, 02:47:16 AM »

Hi all,

I had ESWT therapy in Spain with Dr. Natalio Cruz. I had 4 sessions in 4 weeks, and it did not help at all at the time with my ED issues. At the time I was having difficulties getting a hard erection and/or maintaining it. However, after a couple of months, I have recovered my hard erections, and I can now get hard erection on my own (have not tried with a female partner yet). So I have no idea whether the ESWT did help or not. USually you see results very quick, after 3rd or 4th treatment, but in my case I didn't notice anything.

Also, it did not help in improving my internal scarring/fibrosis in the corpora cavernosum nor my Peyronie's plaque.

I know this does not really help much, but it is what happened to me.
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« Reply #118 on: January 21, 2016, 02:15:19 PM »

krazylord

In my opinion ED don't cure by himself.
If you didn't made some additional ED treatment during those two months, probably the ESWT helped

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