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PENTOX effect on Peyronie’s - Forum Experience
« on: March 27, 2012, 10:07:20 AM »

I am attaching a file that is a collection of the forum statements regarding Pentox, just from members personal experience.
I had given points for each post and the average come out 62.6% of satisfaction.
Other people may give other points for the different sentenses.
I have attached the Word file so everyone can download and change the points I have give for his own conclusion

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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2012, 11:04:54 AM »

This is an outstanding piece of work, sir! I wish everything we discuss here could be compiled so concisely. Thank you for the effort.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2013, 09:05:54 AM »

This forum is a lifesaver.... thank you so much to the men who started this!
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2013, 03:08:50 PM »

Nice work, James!

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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2014, 11:56:11 AM »

To all - I am new to having Peyronies Disease (10/2014), and have not yet found a doctor in my area that will prescribe Pentox (been to 3 urologists), despite the research and publications by Levine stating that Arginine, Pentox, and Ubiquinol are the way to go. Any advice on what I can say/do to get a doctor on board? I have an appointment next week with a 4th Uro - thanks!
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2014, 01:46:24 PM »

Thanks James, That helps a lot!
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2014, 08:10:21 PM »

PDnotFORme

I can propose you to take in addition to Dr. Levine document other Pentox supporting documents from the library, like the Iranian research and tell him also about the very positive results that forum members had with Pentox.
You can also print out the small forum "research" I made, but it was last updated at March 27, 2012.

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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2014, 11:00:13 AM »

James

Thank you for the info. I was able to find 4 pieces of literature by Levine, and also was able to find the Iranian study. My appointment is in 2 weeks, I will follow up with results/progress.

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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2015, 09:46:57 AM »

James (and anyone else that comes along)

3 weeks ago, I was able to find a doctor who was familiar with the use of Pentox (400mg 3x D) + L-Arnginine (1000 mg 2x D) + 5mg of daily Cialis. After 3 weeks, the pain has lessened some and girth measurements have remained the same in the area of concern (bottleneck near base), whereas they were getting worse previously. Hopefully this trend continues; I will continue to post updated when possible, as my script is for 6 months.

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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2015, 10:02:50 AM »

Congratulations on finding a progressive doctor interested in fighting this!  Best wishes for continued improvement!

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2015, 10:14:12 AM »

Nemo - Thanks! It was a HUGE sigh of relief to find someone that was, and I quote, "familiar with what Levine and Lue do for their patients".

I will share my full story, in hopes that it will help anyone else that is fighting:

I am 26, was a college athlete, 6' tall, 175 lbs (very healthy condition otherwise). I first noticed pain and a narrowing (bottleneck) deformity in October 2014 (5.75 in at base vs 6.25 inches girth around the rest). Length has remained the same since onset, and I do not have curvature. It took 5 urologist visits in 3 months to finally find a doctor who was knowledgeable, and was diagnosed with Peyronie's on January 8, 2015. I live in Indiana, and found a knowledgeable doctor in Cincinnati, OH. I have been on Pentox (400mg 3x D), L-Arginine (1000mg 2x D) and daily Cialis (5 mg). In the past 4 weeks, the pain has begun to subside (2/10 when flaccid, 3-4/10 during intercourse) and intercourse has become possible again. Also, the narrowing has not become any worse in the last 4 weeks. As I previously stated, I will continue to post updates as often as possible.

Has anyone on Pentox/L-Arginine/Cialis (or a similar combination) also tried use of a VED to try to regain girth? I would love to take some positive feedback into my follow up in 3 weeks and possibly add this to my regimen.

Also, I am incredibly thankful for the existence of this forum, as it helped me realize how quickly I should act and was able to receive treatment within 90 days of noticing the issue for the first time (as opposed to a sit and wait approach, as suggested by the first 3 doctors I saw)! Thanks to all!
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2015, 02:26:40 PM »

PDnotFORme

The oral treatment you started shows results as the progression of the disease has halted and the pain reduced as I understand from your post. Happy for you, it is a good sign.
Regarding VED, I am a big fun of it as it helped me and helps others. Be very careful while using it not to over-pump and cause damage.
Please give us the name of the doctor and his location so other forum members will benefit also having an updated doctor.

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2015, 03:54:55 PM »

James

My doctor in Cincinnati referred me to Dr. Robert Bahnson at The Ohio State University's Wexner Medical Center. He was very knowledgeable and up-to-date.

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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2015, 04:39:45 PM »

PDnotFORme

Thanks for the doctor details.
Updated the doctors list.

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2015, 11:18:18 AM »

James

No problem! My first follow-up appointment is in a few weeks; I will be sure to provide an update.
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2015, 09:44:21 AM »

To all: just an update.

I am 60 days into 400 mg of Pentox, 3x daily + 1000mg L-Arginine 2x daily, and 1x daily 5mg Cialis. I also take 400mg Vit E 1x daily.

I had my first follow-up appointment last week - my doctor said not much had changed.. which at this point I will take as a positive sign.

My measurements in length and girth have not changed in the last 60 days, which I will also take as a positive; I am hoping that the progression of the problem is slowing.

In regards to pain, I have not had much of a change since onset. In flaccid state, the pain comes as goes, and it usually in the form of a tingling/burning sensation in the affected area. During intercourse, the pain ranges from a 1-5/10, and sometimes requires stopping. Have also noticed a severe ache after climax, which I am assuming is due to Peyronies Disease (this pain usually subsides within an hour).

I am still hopeful in beating Peyronies Disease, and am continuing to seek out additional opinions (see multiple doctors), considering my younger age. I have not yet had an ultrasound or MRI, and am pushing to have one ASAP with my doctors. More updates to come.

Does anyone have any insight as to how long it took for pain to go away while on a similar regimen? Any suggestions?

Thanks,
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2015, 09:59:56 AM »

PDnotFORme

I think that no Peyronies progression with your treatment is a good news.
Anyhow, 60 days on this treatment is not enough to see the Peyronies symptoms reversing. This kind of treatment  is a marathon, not a sprint.
Wish you starting to see reverse of the symptoms, keep us updated.

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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2015, 10:46:01 PM »

Hey PDnotFORme.  Our stories sound very similar.  I am 35 and in very good shape and am a healthy eater.  I have always had a bit of a curve downward but it was never painful until a few months ago.  Now I have hourglass shape at the base.  It started in late Dec. 2014 during a sexual experience.  About a week after I started experiencing slight pain when flaccid but pretty painful when rock hard.  Especially if I have an erection while standing.   I went to 3 urologists until the last one prescribed me 400 mg of Pentox, 3x daily + 1000mg L-Arginine 2x daily, and 400mg Vit E 1x daily.  He said Cialis was optional and gave me a script but I don't use it.  That was a month ago.  The pain feels like its slowly subsiding or getting better.  No pain flaccid.  Still pain when hard but only if I'm "rock" hard, which is a bit difficult to achieve.  Anyway just thought I'd share.  Your story gives me some hope.  I go back in to see the doc in 30 days.  To me its sounding like this will hopefully subside or go away in 6 months to a year from what Im reading on this forum. 
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2015, 11:20:36 PM »

xman1740

Adding low dose Cialis to your treatment (2.5 mg if you don't have ED, 5 mg if you have) will help together with the Pentox to arrest the disease and reverse the symptoms.

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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2015, 12:19:17 PM »

Hi guys. I found a information site about q10 that says "Both vitamin K and Q -10 counteracts the effect of blood-thinning medications , and concomitant use is therefore believed to increase the risk of blood clots" (google translate from norwegian)
 
since pentox/trental is a blood thinning medication, and I've seen that a lot of the forum members use both pentox and q10, I thought that I should share this.

I am currently only using trental 300mg 2 times a day, and some vitamin E. I know that vitamin E is'nt going to help me, but since I bought a package before I found out I might as well just finish it. I was searching online to find somewhere to order q10 in norway, and that's when I found the information that you should not mix it with blood thinning medicine.
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2015, 02:28:11 PM »

Thanks for the information norwegian.
Can you give us the link to the research regarding CoQ10/blood clothing?
If CoQ10 counteracts blood thinning medications it will effect many on Pentox, aspiring etc'

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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2015, 07:45:19 AM »

Sure.

Q-10 | Faktaark |  NIFAB.no

This is a norwegian website, but if you use google chrome it could translate everything for you!
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2015, 08:12:57 AM »

Thanks for the link Norwegian.
I don't want to argue with the article, but no any research is stated from where the information is. Maybe the problem is google translate. From the link:
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Interactions with medications:
Blood thinners (warfarin) High Possible.
Both vitamin K and Q-10 counteracts the effect of blood-thinning medications, and concomitant use is therefore believed to increase the risk of blood clots.
The first sentence mentions Warfarin only, not mentioning other blood thinners.
The second sentence mentioning vitamin K and CoQ10. Is vitamin K mentioned because it effects blood thinners if taken with CoQ10? If not, I don't understand why is vitamin K mentioned in an article about CoQ10.

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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2015, 11:49:32 PM »

James,
Any update on whether to mix q10 with pentox?
Also do you know if the interaction btwn IBprofen and pentox will be harmful?

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« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2015, 06:10:40 AM »

grotesquegnome

The only thing I found about interaction is:
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Pentoxifylline reduces the breakdown of theophylline (Theo-Dur, Respbid, Slo-Bid, Theo-24, Theolair, Uniphyl, Slo-Phyllin) in the liver, increasing blood levels and side effects of theophylline. Combining pentoxifylline with warfarin (Coumadin) may increase the risk of bleeding. The mechanism for this interaction is unknown.
Nothing about Petox and CoQ10

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« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2015, 09:30:11 PM »

james
On wikipedia it says coQ10 only interacts with the blood thinner Coumadin, which is a relatively strong blood thinner, but it does this because both coQ10/Vit K and coumadin use the same mechanism, so I'm thinking maybe pentox uses a different mech than coumadin.

Also, where can I buy colchicine? I read a bunch of good studies about the mixture of that with Vit E

Thanks.. also,are you living in romania? I grew up in Bucharest
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« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2015, 09:56:24 AM »

grotesquegnome:

Before you purchase the colchicine, check out the posts here on the main forum. The price has really risen since the original form was approved by the FDA. Also, there seems to be very little, if any, assistance with treating Peyronies Disease.

I took it way back in the 1950s when I first contracted Peyronies Disease. Took bottles of it, very cheap then, but it did absolutely nothing toward helping rid my Peyronies Disease symptoms.

It did, however, help an early battle with arithritis. So, do a search in the forum threads/topics and catch up on the posts there.

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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2015, 03:21:30 PM »

I have a question regarding the class of the Pentox:

Is it an actual blood thinning agent (like Coumadin or Warfarin) or does it just allow the blood to flow more freely because it is breaking up the plaque?

If it IS an actual blood thinner is it treated like Coumadin or Warfarin in that you must be carful to not cut or bruise yourself or that you must stop it 7 days prior to a surgery etc....
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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2015, 04:34:38 PM »

Stabler;

A quick answer is that Pentox reduces the viscosity of blood. So yes, it does thin the blood.
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2015, 06:39:27 PM »

Pentox is not exactly a blood thinner like Coumadin, Warfarin, Aspirin. Some effects the same.
The way Pentox is working is making the red blood cells flexible so they can enter the thinnest blood vessels.
Read blood cells supply the oxygen to everywhere in our body so the oxygen reaches the extremities much easier, including our penis.
It may reduce the white cells count also, so yes, as Jonbinspain wrote, reducing viscosity also.

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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2015, 08:25:28 PM »

Thank you James,

That was my concern, that it would carry the same kind of risks as the Coumadin or Warfarin.
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« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2015, 10:23:11 PM »

Pentox have also risks.
It weakens the immune system and may lower drastically the white blood cells counts.
I had to stop after 18 months because sever flue every 6 weeks, but it didn't affect my white blood cells.
In addition, some suffer from very bad side effects.
Some have no any downside, they are the happy ones.

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« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2015, 09:33:32 AM »

I will continue my research on the Pentox of course my initial scare was the blood thinning. It is of course something that we will want to try but I want to make sure that we have all the information.
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« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2015, 04:43:16 PM »

All - I was first diagnosed with Peyronie's in about October, 2014 and was treated with two courses of verapamil at the VA hospital in Tucson, AZ. I think it actually made a left curvature worse, while adding a curve upwards until it just about touches the skin of my lower abdomen. Didn't help at all with pain, which was especially bad if I got an erection while embracing my wife and my penis was pointing downward ... I'd have to quickly reach down and re-align it upward to at least reduce the pain.

Went to a civilian urologist in Phoenix, got my Pentox prescription along with advice to take L-Arginine and Vitamin E, beginning in February or March. The pain went away within about a month or six weeks, but the curvature remains to this day. I quit taking the L-Arginine and Vitamiin E but continue with the Pentox. I think I've quit shrinking, but not before I lost about 20% of my erect length. I have to admit, I never measured my girth before this disease and only measured the length once in my early 20s when my current wife and I began dating and discussing marriage (I'm now 64 years old). She has always seemed content with our lovemaking, so why worry about size as a relative topic?

I take Pentox three times a day with my meals or shortly afterward. The pain remains gone. I can still get functioning erections and my ejaculate quantity has not changed at all (as far as we both can tell). I consider myself fortunate that since my wife has gone through menopause she finds intercourse to be painful, so our intimate moments are not negatively impacted by the reduction in size of my penis.

Next step: thinking seriously about Xiaflex with the Phoenix urologist. If the results are good, then I'll see what I do with Pentox or any other oral treatment.
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« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2015, 06:01:53 PM »

Busy Beaver

As you still have good erections, try to take 2.5 mg Cialis ones a day with the Pentox.
Have a research done that Pentox with low dose Cialis helps more than Pentox alone.
Search in the library.

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« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2015, 07:01:11 PM »

So, I've had peyronies disease since February of this year.  I was basically masturbating too aggressively and felt a breach of fluid release from the lower left side of my shaft (literally all the way at the bottom).  It was a strange feeling when it happened and I lost my erection immediately.  Soon after this happened I began to experience pain and a slight curve in my penis.  The curve and bending is to the left and correlates with the location in which I experienced that weird fluid release from inside my shaft eight months ago.  For the first 6 months I read up on peyronies disease and went to a urologist who prescribed me vitamin e and steroid cream.  He said if the bending got any worse to immediately come back to him so he could give me some injections to break up the plaque. After six months the pain decreased and I was beginning to feel like I could masturbate more regularly again.  I had been masturbating at least twice a week with lots of lotion to prevent injury and I haven't had sex since December of last year.  I am trying to be as careful as possible but this whole ordeal is very frustrating and I'm not sure I'll ever be able to have normal sex again.  Anyway, about a week ago I began taking Trental 400mg, this is the first time I've taken any serious medication to help heal my peyronies injury.  Since I began taking this medication I've notice more blood flow running through my penis and it seems to be thicker even when flaccid.  BUT I'VE ALSO NOTICED AN INCREASE IN PAIN SINCE I BEGAN TAKING THE MEDICATION A WEEK AGO. Is this normal?  I understand with the increased blood flow there is going to be some inflammation which may be helping to clear out the plaque but I didn't expect to experience an increase in pain.  I thought the medication was supposed to help reduce pain?  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.  FYI, I don't seem to have any problems getting an erection its mainly the discomfort from applying any pressure to the affected area and I imagine maintaining a painful erection with the applied pressure of sex will be a challenge.
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« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2015, 01:03:53 AM »

I don't think your increase in pain is Pentox related.
I didn't read even one post stating that Pentox increased pain, opposite.

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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2015, 09:26:57 AM »

Breach of fluid release?  Lost your erection immediately? What the hell? O.o and you started feeling the effects after Just one week?.. Don't know what to say..
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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2015, 12:31:45 PM »


Does anybody on the forum know what newguy15 is talking about with the ''fluid release" statement? Never heard of that happening before.

Someone please interpret his statement and post what he means or maybe he can explain a bit more, etc.

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Re: PENTOX effect on Peyronie’s - Forum Experience
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2015, 01:47:51 PM »

When I got peyronies disease back in February I felt some sort of discharge from inside my shaft on the left side of my penis.  Maybe I'm describing it with too much detail, maybe what I really felt was just like a little bit of frizzing on the affecting area and I just think it was a breach of fluid but that's what it felt like to me when it happened.  I have all the symptoms of peyronies disease so I'm almost positive I have it.  What I don't understand is the increase in pain when taking Trental. I'm going to keep taking it for a couple more weeks to see if it gets better.  I also want to add that I am not sure if I have any plaque around the affected area, what I have are some dents and some swelling.  These dents and swelling are so minor that its practically unnoticeable if you're looking at my penis but you can definitely feel it if you were to examine my shaft.
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Re: PENTOX effect on Peyronie’s - Forum Experience
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2015, 09:46:15 PM »

So you are basically not sure of what you have. And I still don't understand the fluid release thing.... But to each it's own.
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Re: PENTOX effect on Peyronie’s - Forum Experience
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2015, 09:40:18 PM »

Damn, I know having a problem with your penis can stress a person out but I didn't realize everyone on here would be such a dick.
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Re: PENTOX effect on Peyronie’s - Forum Experience
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2015, 12:55:03 AM »

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I didn't realize everyone on here would be such a dick.
You are talking about yourself newguy15?

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« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2015, 09:21:25 AM »

Newguy15,

What you are describing sounds a lot like more than Peyronie's.  Peyronie's is specifically scarring of the Tunica preventing it from being expanded to its "original" size/shape.  Often, there are other issues as well.  If you experiences a "fluid" movement in your penis, I would definitely be looking for vein or Corpus Cavernosum damage.

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« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2015, 09:30:55 PM »

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This is very helpful, thank you.  Do you think trental would be bad for corpus cavernosum damage?  I don't want to make it worse.
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« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2015, 09:39:23 PM »

Also, isn't that what peyronies is, some sort of leakage of blood from the corpus cavernosum that hardens and turns into plaque?
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« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2015, 08:00:31 AM »

To my understanding, Peyronie's is specifically scar tissue interfering with the expansion of the Tunica.  Think of the Tunica like a loosely woven cloth of fibers which cannot stretch.  When it is "stretched" to its limit, it is the binding tissue which defines the size and shape of an erection.  Scar tissue bunching up a portion of it interferes with said shape/size.

Peyronie's can have many causes, and while I suppose leakage might be one, it is my understanding that some perceived damage to the Tunica stimulates scar tissue as healing.  Various other issues can contribute and perhaps even cause it as well, as it is a fibrosis like condition similar to Duprene's contracture (which causes the sufferer's hands to curl up).

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« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2015, 10:14:59 PM »

I stopped taking pentox last Thursday.  I took it for a little more than two week but it just increased my pain and discomfort.  Its been a week since I stopped taking the medication and I noticed the pain has subsided.  I'm not sure what to make of all of this except that maybe I don't have peyronies disease but something else, maybe more of a mechanical injury.  There is definitely some dents and slight bending of the shaft to the left and I can tell that the left side of my penis doesn't extend equally with the right.  I'm going to have to go back to a urologist and explain this to him.  The only good thing that came from pentox was an increase in blood flow in my erections and my ejaculations.  My shaft definitely felt harder than I've felt it in a while (even before I hurt myself).  Anyway this kind of sucks, I was really hoping to see some improvement with this medication.
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Re: PENTOX effect on Peyronie’s - Forum Experience
« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2015, 05:30:58 PM »

I don't think your increase in pain is Pentox related.
I didn't read even one post stating that Pentox increased pain, opposite.

James

I wouldn't necessarily say it weakens the immune system. Recent human studies have shown that Pentox in combination with other drugs actually increases white cell, red cell counts.  I'm not saying you are incorrect but the recent literature isn't showing that that I can see.  Could be that something else is going on that's effecting your WBC count?
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Re: PENTOX effect on Peyronie’s - Forum Experience
« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2016, 08:05:16 AM »

Freemason

Lowering the WBC is clearly written as Pentox side effect.
Unfortunately it didn't lowered mine that are around 20,000 because of Polycithemia Vera.
Regarding Pentox weakening the immune system is also stated clearly.
Myself, after 18 months on Pentox started having heavy flue every month, stopped Pentox and the flue gone.
I didn't changed nothing else in my medications and supplements.

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