VED's - Vacuum Erection Devices

[hb]

The pump I ordered was delivered within a week of the credit card charge. I never received an email about when it was shipped either. Fitzz is kind of sloppy about that.

You will probably receive it today or tomorrow. There was a back order on the Three Tube pumps for awhile but that seems to have been resolved.

[skunkworks]

Hmm the Fitzz people charged my card 6 days ago, emailed me to tell me they'd charged y card 4 days ago, but still have not emailed me to confirm my order has been shipped as they said they would.

[Old Man]

Tim:

I think that you are dead on about keeping water away from the pumps. Can't imagine what would happen if water got inside all the mechanism with no way to keep it dried out.

Some pumps are made to work under water, but don't think there are any cheap enough to be included in a VED type situation.

You and I had discussed your VED before and I seemed to remember you using yours while in the tub, but kept the pump out of the water, etc.

Old Man

[Tim468]

I use mine in the tubs without any problems. Here is a representative picture of one of my cylinders:

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I often start with an "A" cylinder and then move to my "B" after getting 'pumped up'. That way, I tend to leak less at the base and get a better seal because I am already full of blood.

Here is what this vendor says about cleaning them:

"Pumps should cleaned after use and stored dry. Cylinders may be cleaned with a mild antibacterial detergent like Ivory liquid. Avoid using harsh chemicals or abrasive materials in order to preserve the clarity of your cylinders. Cylinder connectors should be loosened slightly prior to storage. (i.e.: not screwed tight.) Cleaning cylinders or pumps in an automatic dishwasher is NOT recommended, and will void your warranty. "

The latter recommendation is due to the ultra-high temperatures used in dishwashers.

I use a pump for my cylinders that I need to keep water away from as the seal will be lost. A typical cheaper source of a pump is listed below

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Looking at the medical grade pumps, the best I can imagine is that some folks submerge the electronics to wash them (duh), but it seems that one has to have a way to wash out a cylinder!

Tim

[Hawk]

I know one thing for sure, if you own either an Osbon or Augusta Medical systems VED, you had best not immerse the pump in water to clean them. They will only last for one of two more pumps before going on the bad side!!.

Pretty important to know.  Thanks for the information.

[Old Man]

Hawk:

I know one thing for sure, if you own either an Osbon or Augusta Medical systems VED, you had best not immerse the pump in water to clean them. They will only last for one of two more pumps before going on the bad side!!.

I recall talking to Tim about his pump once, but remember he has a pump that comes from a company that makes medical equipment for labs and hospitals. Imagine that they are made to work in more of a rough environment than the ones made by the above companies.

Old Man

[Hawk]

WOW, I can't imagine that you would have immersed the vacuum pump in water to clean it! Most VEDs emphatically state not to immerse the pump in water to clean it...

If you have any of the Osbon or Augusta model VEDs, the pump should never be immersed in water, etc. I would also say that most any other model VED pump should not be immersed in water to clean them.

Old Man, I think Tim actually said he uses his in the bathtub.  I have often filled mine (Vacurect) with water with no problems but it is a rather unique design with no separate pump.

[Old Man]

bodoo2u:

WOW, I can't imagine that you would have immersed the vacuum pump in water to clean it! Most VEDs emphatically state not to immerse the pump in water to clean it. I simply just keep mine as clean as possible while using it. Then after use I wipe it off with a soapy clean wash cloth and then wipe that off with only a wet cloth to remove any residue of the soap. Finally, dry it with a clean dry cloth.

You do not state which model VED you have, so I cannot relate to which pump you have. If you have any of the Osbon or Augusta model VEDs, the pump should never be immersed in water, etc. I would also say that most any other model VED pump should not be immersed in water to clean them.

You might try placing a cylinder on the pump and then hold the cylinder against your body and go through several cycles of pumping to try and get the excess water out of the pump. Other than that I have no suggestion.

Old Man

[skunkworks]

All of a sudden my VED is not holding air. I can see water coming out of the tip of my pump when I fill it with water to clean it. The water looks like it's coming from the area where the pump meets the piece that holds the hose. I have tightened the piece, but the water, and the air, still comes out.

Do you Yanks have Blu-Tack? Sounds like a Blu-Tack job to me.

[newguy]

getting_there - Have you experienced any curvature reduction through use of the VED?  I notice that you've been using a VED for quite some time.

bodoo - Can you perhaps place tape over the area?

[getting_there_in_oregon]

skunkworks!

good choice. do remember to take it slow. it took me a little while to get the hang of, in fact i got pretty annoyed at first. but it starts making sense. don't go too far too early. it's a pretty interesting process!

[bodoo2u]

All of a sudden my VED is not holding air. I can see water coming out of the tip of my pump when I fill it with water to clean it. The water looks like it's coming from the area where the pump meets the piece that holds the hose. I have tightened the piece, but the water, and the air, still comes out.

[skunkworks]

Thanks for being so patient and answering all my questions OldMan, Hawk and everyone else.

I bit the bullet and ordered the vitality 3 cylinder package. Big chunk of change (especially with shipping to Aus) but it seems like my best chance to fix a very important issue.

[Old Man]

skunkworks:

Yes, you would regain your original girth simply by the stretching effect of the vacuum in the cylinders. You would then see the original size outside of the cylinder once you achieve an erection whether it it natural or obtained with the VED. The large cylinder only is to be used for achieving erections.

Answered your PM earlier tonight.

Regards, Old Man

[skunkworks]

Hmm I must have measured something wrong then, I am definitely quite a bit wider than normal, but not excessively so. As for the formula, maths is not my strong point

But lets say hypothetically that you used to have a diameter of 2.5 and it decreased after peyronies to 2.0 Using a cylinder of diameter 2.25 would mean you could never regain your original lost girth?

[Hawk]

Actually the formula to find the diameter is a simple circumference or girth divided by 3.14 or C/3.14

At a glance it seems your formula gets the same result because it multiplies by 2 then divides by 2

2 1/2 inches of diameter is 7.85 inches circumference which is beyond an exceptionally large girth

At any rate the diameter of the erect penis is not the issue.  You start pumping from flaccid and the penis conforms to the tube.  only the smallest tube might be an issue.

[skunkworks]

How do you measure the diameter?

(circumference/(2x3.14)) X 2

OldMan - I did read through the protocol thread a week or so back (can't see a child forum though), can't remember seeing anything about this particular issue, but will go back and look again. Also read through the whole 47 page VED forum, no mention of this that I can remember. Have messaged you.

[BSSS]

Hmm, the vitality 3 cylinder comes with Three Vacuum Tubes - Inside diameters of 2.25", 1.75" and 1.5".

I just measured, and my erect penis has a diameter of around 2.5 inches. I guess none of those tubes will work for me?

I've been using the vitality 3 cylinder for about 2 weeks now and at first I didn't thing the smaller tube was gonna work for me either.  I found out after getting used to it that it will work.

With that in mind I'd like to report a couple of my 'subjective' findings.

1. I've noticed a definite improvement in my flaccid state.  Not nearly as much turtle effect. It may not be larger, but it seems to hang better if that makes any sense.

2. I've also noticed a definite improvement of my urine stream. I'm not sure why this is the case but am very encouraged by it.

I plan to keep working the protocol and hope to see results with curvature and hourglass.  I'll keep reporting any differences I see.

Also like to thank many here for the email and PM support; can't tell you how nice it is to know I'm not doing this stuff alone!

BSSS

[Hawk]

Hmm, the vitality 3 cylinder comes with Three Vacuum Tubes - Inside diameters of 2.25", 1.75" and 1.5".

I just measured, and my erect penis has a diameter of around 2.5 inches. I guess none of those tubes will work for me?

How do you measure the diameter?

[Old Man]

skunksworks:

Yes, the Vitality three cylinder VED will work great for you. Read the protocol in the VED section of the Child Boards and you will realize why there are three cylinders.

If you need further clarification, send a PM and I will explain futher. No need to review here what is already shown in past posts, etc.

Old Man

[skunkworks]

Hmm, the vitality 3 cylinder comes with Three Vacuum Tubes - Inside diameters of 2.25", 1.75" and 1.5".

I just measured, and my erect penis has a diameter of around 2.5 inches. I guess none of those tubes will work for me?

[skunkworks]

After actually going into a few 'adult' shops to check out the merchandise, I think a cheapy pump is really not going to cut the mustard. Will wait till I can afford a good quality model.

[Tim468]

Jackie,

It is my belief that those who suffer an obvious injury and an injury response, do better with the VED and medications than those who simply develop it gradually.

I think that this might be because of a stronger tendency to bend in those with chronic Peyronie's, versus the bad luck to suffer a bad one-time injury - but lacking the ongoing inflammatory response that accompanies gradual progression.

I hope I am right for your sake! Keep up the good work.

Tim

[lwillisjr]

Les,

Thanks for the responses so far - any others are appreciated.

HopeToHeal

Keep accurate records. Measure your size and angle of curvature while erect. Tracking this is a good way to determine if your progress is improving, or if things are getting worse. Start using either the VED or traction, and start what is referred to here as the PAV cocktail.  Pentox, L'Arginine, and low doses of Viagra (Ciallis has a low dose daily option now).

This seems to be the best combination to provide some improvement. Be patient and try the above. I always recommend getting to a "good" sexual function specialist who specializes in the treatment of Peyronies Disease. We can makes some recommendations of doctors depending on where you live.

Les

[Hawk]

I agree.  Good news and a great detailed very specific post.

[cowboyfood]

Jackieo,

I hope everyone takes a moment to read your recent post in the forum's improvement thread regarding your VED usage.

http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,466.msg22062.html#msg22062

Way to go!

CF

[HopeToHeal]

Les,

All of my plaque seems to be in the top side of my penis and my curve is completely upward. Maybe I confused you by my statement about my penis getting injured by being physically bent in the downward direction during sex. I think that may have caused a tear in the top part of my penis and the resulting plaque there.

Thanks for the responses so far - any others are appreciated.

HopeToHeal

[lwillisjr]

Hopr To Heal,

I agree with Jack. You asked if you "missed a window"...  Well doing something is better than doing nothing. So get started now. I don't think you will do any further damage with the VED, just use as instructed and be careful and slow with it.

You also stated that you feel the lumps and plaque on the top of your penis. This should make your erection curve upward, but you say it curves downward. So that one has me a bit confused.

Les

[jackp]

HopeToHeal

A very good an detailed account. There is hope. The first thing you need to do is get on the recommended VED therapy and start taking the Trental.

There is no fast fix. It takes time and dedication for the VED exercise to work. I can tell you from my story that the VED therapy does work. It may be 3 months to a year but it will work if you follow the protocol. Do not over pump.

I hate to tell you this but the 1/3 1/3 1/3 account your doctor said is true. Back in 1995 when mine started we did not even have that. 18 months after peyronies started you need to reevaluate things and look at your options.

I can tell you this even though I lost 1 1/2 inches in 1995 the VED therapy I did for a year helped me gain back length. For details read My History.

The best source of advice for VED therapy here is Old Man. I took his advice and was well rewarded.

If you have questions this is the best forum for them. Hope I can help.

Jackp

[HopeToHeal]

Hi All,

Newbie here looking for some advice. My post could apply to multiple topics, but since I'm considering the VED, I thought this was most appropriate place to post.

I have to say I have spent the last several days browsing most of the topics on this site and I am more depressed and discouraged than ever.

My story - 44 years old, never had any problems with my penis before (no curve at all). Last November (10 months ago) I noticed a lump at the top of my penis near the base. I also started to have very painful erections (nocturnal and daytime) and some slight upward bending. Thinking back, I seemed to recall an incident where my partner bent my penis a little too hard in a downward direction a few weeks earlier. Thinking back more, I also recalled an incident a few months prior where I was attempting penetration without a full erection, and may have bent my shaft excessively. But I'm not sure about either of these incidents, as I didn't feel any pain at the time.

I immediately went to my GP who sent me to a urologist. The uro examined me and confirmed Peyronie's. I got the usual "1/3 better, 1/3 same, 1/3 worse" speech and an Rx for Trental. He said they wasn't much else to do.

Unfortunately I was dealing with another serious health issue at the time and that one was my priority. I've been dealing with this issue for many years, and as a result I work very closely with a diverse group of alternative medicine specialists. One of them referred me to Herazy's website and I began using topical copper serum and DMSO 2-3 times per day. I also used a homeopathic scar reduction formulation topically and orally. I did NOT begin the Trental.

This went on for 3-4 months. During this time my penis stayed relatively straight, although I noticed two long plaques also forming along the upper left and upper right sides of my shaft. A dent appeared on the right side of my penis for awhile and then disappeared. The terrible pain I was experiencing from my night-time erections decreased over time.

In February, my penis was injured again during some gentle sexual contact. I was shocked at the pain I experienced (strong dull ache) and the fact that within 24 hours, my erect penis had become far more deformed. I now had a substantial upward curve.

Unfortunately, over the next 6 months, life became very complicated for me and I basically ignored my penis and what had happened to it. I stopped the daily topical applications and did nothing. I limited sex to occasional careful masturbation and even that seemed to cause a flare-up of pain and possible increase in curvature. I wasn't looking too closely at my penis due to my disgust, fear and shock at what was happening to it. Basically I would avoid sex as long as possible and then masturbate out of desperation, only to get more upset at the result.

Fast-forward to today. Now 10 months after the start of this nightmare, I can feel the plaque going all the way up the top of my shaft to the glans. I have a very strong upward curve (70 degrees?), my length is shortened by 2+ inches, my girth is reduced and I have few nocturnal erections. My shaft is smaller in all dimensions in the erect and flaccid state - it feels like it is shrinking. Sex is now completely impossible - even careful masturbation is very difficult, causes pain and is totally unenjoyable. I only do it occasionally to try to keep the "plumbing working" to some degree. I can still achieve and maintain erections, although they are not as strong as before - which is no surprise to me given the deformity and my mental state when dealing with my penis. But the feeling of constriction in my entire penis is freaking me out.

I realize I made a big mistake by avoiding this issue and and possibly by not taking the Trental. I hope I have not completely screwed myself, but am worried that could be the case.

I'm wondering what advice and perspective some of you who have had this for awhile could give me. Some questions:

1. Have I passed some window of opportunity by basically doing nothing for 10 months? Is it too late to start the Trental?

2. From reading this site, nothing sounds very promising, although stretching or the VED seems to offer some hope. So I am considering those two options, and from what I've read I'm leaning toward the VED. I'm hoping that if nothing else, it will help my penis from losing all function due to lack of use and the tightening due to the plaque. Does that make sense?

3. One of my big concerns with the VED is that I could cause further injury to my penis - I feel that the unknown cause of this plaque accumulation is still there, and that any manipulation of my penis will simply cause more to accumulate. Should this be a concern?

4. Has anyone else noticed their condition worsening as quickly as I do? (overnight accumulation of significant plaque and change in deformity)

5. What else would you recommend I do?

Finally I have to wonder whether my Peyronies Disease was caused by a long course of a fluoroquinolone antibiotic I took several months prior. Antibiotics in this class are Levaquin, Cipro and Avelox. They are know to cause connective tissue damage, and I have heard other men blame them for their Peyronies Disease.

Sorry for the long post, but I feel very isolated, confused and depressed about this issue and am hoping for some answers.

Thanks Guys...

HopeToHeal

[Overcomer]

Overcomer - I typed a post in the Oral treatment thread that may be of use should your urologist refuse to give you pentox. As for the VED, I think it's a viable treatment for almost all peyronie's sufferers and the earlier people explore it as an option the better. People knock the VED, and admittedly it's not for everyone, but there are those here with good results from it, so it' certainly something worth giving a go. If it benefits you then you can stick with it for good, and if you come to the conclusion that it isn't of use (after one of two cycles of the program) then you can re-evaluate at that time. The only people I'd be in two minds about suggesting it to as those with pain.

hey new guy, thanks for your response. let me tell you a bit about myself. i have had peyronies now since i was about 20 years old. it's pretty distressing because of the shape and length loss associated with it, and now the ed. i've seen a few urologists who have flat out told me not to worry about it and if it's such a problem to just get surgery. now that's a complete joke and unacceptable how a lot aren't even willing to try to help, granted the disease is unpredictable. so until i get around to seeing one of the more reputable doctors in the field i decided i should probably do what i can myself, bang on doors as loud an hard as possible to get some sort of solution. with the time and help of some of the great members on this board i have been introduced to lots of helpful information and possibilities that could help me that the dr's i've seen haven't even had a clue about. it's funny i think the members on here know more about the disease and cuttin edge developments then the dr's i've seen. i still have not really pursued any kind of hardcore treatment in this entire time but am looking to when i see my urolgist again hopefully within a month. the ved is one of those things. i have seen people knocking the ved but if it works, it works and i'm not ashamed of having to use it or tell anyone i do...i have a problem afterall. i rather not have it, but it's the cards i was dealt.  i'm lookin to hopefully get on pentox and use the ved together. i just wanted to know if the ved was viable in my case for the bend and waisting i've developed + ed from blood flow. i know the ved helped old man tremendously. of course when i start doing any of these treatments i will keep a log so as to help others.

[newguy]

Overcomer - I typed a post in the Oral treatment thread that may be of use should your urologist refuse to give you pentox. As for the VED, I think it's a viable treatment for almost all peyronie's sufferers and the earlier people explore it as an option the better. People knock the VED, and admittedly it's not for everyone, but there are those here with good results from it, so it' certainly something worth giving a go. If it benefits you then you can stick with it for good, and if you come to the conclusion that it isn't of use (after one of two cycles of the program) then you can re-evaluate at that time. The only people I'd be in two minds about suggesting it to as those with pain.

[Overcomer]

do you guys reccomend the ved for me? i have a curve to the left like a bannana and also noticed i have some waistin on the top of my penis. i've got a bit of a blood flow problem too but i suspect it's because i have low testosterone. i recently discovered that after going to my urologist. he had me do a dopplar ultrasound and saw the blood flow was not up to par and told me it was probably due to the low t. i'm going to see if i can score some pentox from him next time i see him also. wondering if the ved can help with these problems? i have plenty of time...

[ComeBacKid]

Cowboy,

When i was just on pentox my flaccid hang got bigger just by observation and erections were bigger and fuller by observation.  I don't know if this is cause pentox thins the blood and allows it to "fit" into the penis better and get to all the knooks and crannies and fill up or what?

I pumped last night with the VED, initially after getting done my penis looked pumped and good, then shrank up somewhat.  Today I got an erection and it was full and solid like the pumping last night seemed to help it.  One thing is for sure this disease seems unpredictable and the formations the damaged tissue can take are endless. Sometimes my penis feels soft all over and normal with a floppy flaccid hang like you should have.  Then other times its hard and shrunken up tight and hard and small.  Obviously the tissue can change, flex, expand, this is good as it can most likely be stretched as we've seen, and hopefully someday repaired for good!

Comebackid

[cowboyfood]

CBK,

I may have notice the effect you are describing.  And, since I began using the VED, pentox, daily Viagra and supplements, I have noticed that overall my flaccid "hang" is generally larger, and sometimes substantially larger.

CF

[ComeBacKid]

Has anyone noticed like I do, that just after using the VED their penis looks pumped and full, but about 15 mintues later it seems shrunken again and smaller then usual.  Then after taking a shower and cleaning off all the lube and whats left from pumping they are hanging well, and their next erection usually an hour or two later is full and pumped?  It seems like in my case the tissue is stretched and then responds by trying to contract, but ultimately leads to better and fuller erections.  I wonder if the damaged tissue's natural response is to contract initially?

Comebackid

[jackp]

Chris

I just sent you a message on the implant thread. I know you are new and there is no need to double post.

Jackp

[Old Man]

skunksworks:

Most all of the medical quality VEDs have a quick release valve. It is highly recommended that you purchase one with medical quality. I do not recommend buying one without a quick release valve as it would be dangerous not to be able to quickly release the vacuum.

Old Man

[skunkworks]

Thanks for all the detailed answers Angus, JackP and Old Man.

Ok so it seems then that it would probably be more useful to have a quick release switch on the pump, than a pressure gauge, as we are not staying at any pressure for any real amount of time. Which explains why the VED device Old Man recommends does not have a gauge.

Great to hear that one could get the pumping out of the way in 15 min or less, that makes VED even more attractive as a treatment than traction.

[Old Man]

skunkworks:

No, it is highly NOT recommended to "wear" the VED for extended periods of time. As Angus explained, reasonable pressures for a reasonable period of time will be OK. Extended periods of time with higher pressures can and will cause edema of the skin, damage to the glans and possibly other trauma. You do not need to use very long periods of VED therapy nor at higher pressures.

Pumping up just to see how "big" you can get your penis is very dangerous for the reasons stated above. So, use caution and approach the VED therapy as a long term procedure and you will reap much better benefits from it.

A gauge on the the VED could be a guide for those who deem it necessary. However, your body is a much better gauge of the amount of vacuum you can comfortably stand without causing any trauma. So practice with varying amounts of pressure to determine your comfort level. More repetitions with a moderate amount of vacuum will produce a better result than those of a higher amount, etc. So, use caution in the VED therapy and you will see better results. Again, there is not set amount of pressure one should use, let your body be the guide to that.

Let us know if you have further questions.

Old Man

[jackp]

skunkworks

My experience with pumping up and holding for long period of times was I hurt myself.  It caused a bruise that took some time to go away.  That was before I found this forum and Old Man.  My advise is do not do it.

I had a single cylinder prescription model VED and the instructions were not very good.  I thought if I pumped up as much as I could stand it and hold it a long time would get faster results. How wrong I was.

I have posted the single cylinder VED use that Old Man gave to me. It helped me get to where I am today with a much better than expected outcome with my implant. 

I used the exercise for about a year. I learned the hard way that short cycles at a mild vaccum works best. A 15 minute session daily worked for me.

Jackp

[skunkworks]

That answer was perfect. Answered questions I didn't even know to ask yet. Much appreciated.

The one query would be how does one gauge if you have too much/too little vacuum going on. I have bought a cheaper Aus version, till I can afford the recommended pump on here. It has a pressure gauge. Oddly the Vitality (recommended model) does not seem to.

Is there a  set psi I should be working at?

Also, what about not cycling at all, just wearing it for half an hour or so?

[Angus]

...Does this mean total treatment time for the day is just a few minutes?

10 cycles at 10 - 15 seconds per cycle does not add up to much time...

I expected to wear it for an extended period, like the traction device...

    Yes, that's not much time. When I was active with the protocol I personally did the cycles for 15 to 20 minutes, sometimes a few more. This is where a guy has to pay attention with this. 15+ minutes at a medium-mild vacuum will do no harm. This is way more than ten cycles, but at a reasonably mild vacuum (enough to be erect, but not enough to cause redness, pinching, and uncomfortable sensations), there will be no harm done or damage. Many questions have been asked by guys about damage from a VED being used. The bottom line is NO, there is no harm in more than ten cycles, but you must get to know your body and STOP when your body tells you. Stop if you see edema (swelling of the penile skin being engorged with fluids), redness or pinching of skin at the end of the tube next to your body. This means too much vacuum or too many cycles or BOTH. Describing this on a forum is difficult as we don't do pictures and videos of the proper technique and so forth, but I can safely say this: Do more than ten cycles if you wish but at just enough vacuum to get an erection and no more. Now, if you try to push this out to an hour long VED session you WILL get skin swelling, redness and uncomfortable sensations. That is too much and your body will tell you right away when enough is enough. Do not be tempted to pump vacuum that few "extra" times to how big you can get. It hurts and does no good for anything. You will also get redness, swelling and tenderness with attempted marathon sessions. The VED is based on reasonable length sessions used with consistency every day. But hours long sessions like with traction are out. I know I typed a lot more than what addresses your question, but I felt I had to throw those additional things in so new readers would get more of a total picture if they are following this thread.

[skunkworks]

I just read the protocol for treatment on here, and it states:

Each cycle consists of the following steps: (1) Create negative pressure around the penis, (2) engorge the penis inside the cylinder and hold an erection for 5 to 10 seconds, (3) release the negative pressure in the cylinder. The penis should have a firm, almost tight fit in the small cylinder with the penis actually touching the sides of the cylinder. The medium cylinder may have air space between the penis and the cylinder, and the penis should not be confined by the sides of the cylinder at all inside the large cylinder, depending on your size. NOTE: Each daily routine consists of doing these three steps for 10 consecutive cycles

Does this mean total treatment time for the day is just a few minutes?

10 cycles at 10 - 15 seconds per cycle does not add up to much time...

I expected to wear it for an extended period, like the traction device.

[jackp]

Iceman

What Old Man said is 1000% true in my case. 

In my case if I had not had the VED exercise I would not have had the outcome I had.

One of the side effects of peyronies is penile shrinkage.  The best way to combat that is daily VED exercise. I wish I had known about it in 1995.

The daily exercise of the corpora's keeps the blood flow going and that helps keep your penis healthy.

Jackp

[Old Man]

Iceman:

Yes, daily use of the VED can and will help with keeping your penis more healthy. Comebackid has listed his success with VED usage in his post. Even if the therapy does nothing for the plaque/nodules or does not straighten your curves, the constant daily stretching will keep a good blood flow into and out of the penile erectile chambers. This will keep them open, more healthy and also help with erectile dysfunction if you have that problem. Using the restrictor rings with the VED can and will provide one of the best erection you ever had.

I still use my VED three or four time a week just for maintenance of what was gained by the year or so use of the VED early on in Peyronies Disease. The VED was prescribed for me in 1995 after a radical prostatectomy which left me impotent due to non nerve sparing surgery. The VED has given me great success in the ED as well as the Peyronies Disease problem.

Strongly urge you to keep on using the VED despite you not currently seeing any results per se.

Old Man

[ComeBacKid]

If you have a "cast" around your penis like I do of fibrosis, it seems like stretching it with the VED seems to help.  It did nothing for my curvature, even seemed to make it worse, but it did help me regain size and hang better.  I'm getting ready to go on another six month treatment plan with it.  I think personally my plaque just will not budge, it seems hard to remodel, this is where xiaflex or a drug like it might help the VEd process if it can soften the plaque...  Dr. Levine had this theory when he advocated verapamil injections with the VED, but I still have yet to see one study that shows verapamil helps peyronies at all...

Comebackid

[Iceman]

OLDMAN - if the VED is not straightening things out and I have to be realistic about VED usage then is there an advantage to keep using the VED - I mean how will it benefit me if i use it every day

[newguy]

OldMan - Oops, I apologise for the sexism . Yes, it will be great if we eventually do hear back from her.

[Old Man]

newguy:

I have tried many times to get in touch with Chris Spivey who is connected with the urology group in Birmingham, AL. To date, have had no response from that group.

BTW, FYI Chris is a lady and not a man. She is in charge of the trials for the three cylinder model VEDs along with some other treatments that are supposed to enchance the VED, etc.

If and when she ever answers my emails and refused calls, I will report any information gained.

Regards, Old Man