PENTOX 2010 (where to get it and does it work?) - My Experience

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Fred22

Quote from: Farinthesouth on August 30, 2010, 02:15:49 PM
Quote from: Fred22 on August 30, 2010, 12:23:08 PM
Right now my main objective is to resolve the pain issue.  I could then resume my VED therapy, etc.  Since I'm not able to take pentox (although I may give it another try at some point), I need to find something that can help me with the pain besides nsaids, etc.  I've been in touch with Dr. Milam at Vanderbilt and Dr. Christine at Urology Centers of Alabama and both agree that my case is very unusual (in that I've experienced pain for over 4 years) and that I should probably go to a neurologist then a pain management doctor.  Just wondering if there are any suggestions here regarding the pain issue that we haven't already discussed.
Fred
I have been in pain  ( Flaccid) since november 2009;my Uro says that plaque may be compressing dorsal nerve. Sonogram showed a 2mm lession.
I have tried Ultrasound and Laser therapies with no results so far( 24 sessions) It´s very frustrating.

Is your pain constant or intermittant?

Farinthesouth

Quote from: Fred22 on August 30, 2010, 05:24:25 PM
Quote from: Farinthesouth on August 30, 2010, 02:15:49 PM
Quote from: Fred22 on August 30, 2010, 12:23:08 PM
Right now my main objective is to resolve the pain issue.  I could then resume my VED therapy, etc.  Since I'm not able to take pentox (although I may give it another try at some point), I need to find something that can help me with the pain besides nsaids, etc.  I've been in touch with Dr. Milam at Vanderbilt and Dr. Christine at Urology Centers of Alabama and both agree that my case is very unusual (in that I've experienced pain for over 4 years) and that I should probably go to a neurologist then a pain management doctor.  Just wondering if there are any suggestions here regarding the pain issue that we haven't already discussed.
Fred
I have been in pain  ( Flaccid) since november 2009;my Uro says that plaque may be compressing dorsal nerve. Sonogram showed a 2mm lession.
I have tried Ultrasound and Laser therapies with no results so far( 24 sessions) It´s very frustrating.

Is your pain constant or intermittant?

My pain is constant mainly when sit or walk, almost nothing (except at the penis tip if touched)when at bed. Is very strange, but appears that when penis hangs or is compressed; blood pressure makes pain more noticiable....?

Fred22

Quote from: Farinthesouth on August 30, 2010, 07:35:34 PM
Quote from: Fred22 on August 30, 2010, 05:24:25 PM
Quote from: Farinthesouth on August 30, 2010, 02:15:49 PM
Quote from: Fred22 on August 30, 2010, 12:23:08 PM
Right now my main objective is to resolve the pain issue.  I could then resume my VED therapy, etc.  Since I'm not able to take pentox (although I may give it another try at some point), I need to find something that can help me with the pain besides nsaids, etc.  I've been in touch with Dr. Milam at Vanderbilt and Dr. Christine at Urology Centers of Alabama and both agree that my case is very unusual (in that I've experienced pain for over 4 years) and that I should probably go to a neurologist then a pain management doctor.  Just wondering if there are any suggestions here regarding the pain issue that we haven't already discussed.
Fred
I have been in pain  ( Flaccid) since november 2009;my Uro says that plaque may be compressing dorsal nerve. Sonogram showed a 2mm lession.
I have tried Ultrasound and Laser therapies with no results so far( 24 sessions) It´s very frustrating.

Is your pain constant or intermittant?

My pain is constant mainly when sit or walk, almost nothing (except at the penis tip if touched)when at bed. Is very strange, but appears that when penis hangs or is compressed; blood pressure makes pain more noticiable....?

Yes...my pain also sometimes decreases or goes away when I lie down in bed.

Farinthesouth

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Quote from: Farinthesouth on August 30, 2010, 07:35:34 PM
Quote from: Fred22 on August 30, 2010, 05:24:25 PM
Quote from: Farinthesouth on August 30, 2010, 02:15:49 PM
Quote from: Fred22 on August 30, 2010, 12:23:08 PM
Right now my main objective is to resolve the pain issue.  I could then resume my VED therapy, etc.  Since I'm not able to take pentox (although I may give it another try at some point), I need to find something that can help me with the pain besides nsaids, etc.  I've been in touch with Dr. Milam at Vanderbilt and Dr. Christine at Urology Centers of Alabama and both agree that my case is very unusual (in that I've experienced pain for over 4 years) and that I should probably go to a neurologist then a pain management doctor.  Just wondering if there are any suggestions here regarding the pain issue that we haven't already discussed.
Fred
I have been in pain  ( Flaccid) since november 2009;my Uro says that plaque may be compressing dorsal nerve. Sonogram showed a 2mm lession.
I have tried Ultrasound and Laser therapies with no results so far( 24 sessions) It´s very frustrating.

Is your pain constant or intermittant?

My pain is constant mainly when sit or walk, almost nothing (except at the penis tip if touched)when at bed. Is very strange, but appears that when penis hangs or is compressed; blood pressure makes pain more noticiable....?

Yes...my pain also sometimes decreases or goes away when I lie down in bed.

I begun yesterday with 15' "heat Therapy" ( a cotton sock with one cup of rice in it, microwave heated) and feel some moderated pain today ( less than yesterday). I´ll continue and see.

peyroninsidepglans

I was on trental for many months, but I had a coffee and nearly passed out, whatever you do on this drug don't have a coffee I recon it would almost kill you, I thought I was going to die.

I actually switched to horney goat weed , Not just horney goat weed it'self epidium but the mixture you know the ones wer u get epidium and bunch of other herbs iin one tablet, I take that twice a day, and then viagra now and then it gives me better results than those low blod preesure tablets, but I am interested in maybe trying neprinol which has those special silk worm ingrediants that apparently eat the fibrosis away

newguy

Quote from: peyroninsidepglans on September 01, 2010, 02:18:01 AM
I was on trental for many months, but I had a coffee and nearly passed out, whatever you do on this drug don't have a coffee I recon it would almost kill you, I thought I was going to die.

I actually switched to horney goat weed , Not just horney goat weed it'self epidium but the mixture you know the ones wer u get epidium and bunch of other herbs iin one tablet, I take that twice a day, and then viagra now and then it gives me better results than those low blod preesure tablets, but I am interested in maybe trying neprinol which has those special silk worm ingrediants that apparently eat the fibrosis away

Perhaps you had a panic attack, or are very sensitive to caffeine. I drink coffee and take pentox with no negative reaction. Still, if it's a reaction that you've noticed occurs, then I don't blame you for avoiding it. To be honest, it's probably not a good thing to drink too much coffee or tea anyway.

chiguy

I am trying to find the pentox side effects. Does pentox cause nervousness/increased anxiety? Mine has been higher in the last few weeks. I've been on pentox now for almost 9 months.

George999

Quote from: chiguy on September 05, 2010, 11:41:02 AM
I am trying to find the pentox side effects. Does pentox cause nervousness/increased anxiety? Mine has been higher in the last few weeks. I've been on pentox now for almost 9 months.

Multiple guys have reported this issue here on this forum, so I suspect there is a link.  - George

YoungOne

Does anyone know if there is a list somewhere within the website of clinics or doctors in certain cities and states that have prescribed pentox. I have been turned down repeatedly.  Thanks in advance!

newguy

Quote from: YoungOne on September 06, 2010, 07:41:47 PM
Does anyone know if there is a list somewhere within the website of clinics or doctors in certain cities and states that have prescribed pentox. I have been turned down repeatedly.  Thanks in advance!

This is a crying shame. Did you present the studies/evidence to them featured on this site? I'm not aware of such a list existing, but I tell you something, it's not a bad idea for to us do something similiar. If we can pull together all of the sources of urologists willing to prescribe pentox, it will at least bypass a very frustrating and sometimes soul destroying step that many of those new to peyronie's have to face.  

Briden

Hey Everyone,

Quick update...I had posted to this thread awhile back in regards to how Pentox had affected me negatively a year ago. I mentioned I was bi-polar and that I had what was believed to be severe adverse emotional side effects once on Pentox.

Dr. Tom Lue and my Psych Dr agreed to give Pentox a final try. I started over a month ago with a pill a day ...then two a day...and have worked up to (3) pills a day!   No SIDE EFFECTS this time around...literally NONE! No anxiety, no stomach discomfort, no mood shifts etc!

Needless to say I am more than excited to continue taking Pentox and see what benefits I may personally get...I will report as to what I notice now after beginning this.

On a side note..I emailed Dr. Lue of my progress with Pentox and at the same time asked him if my oral supplement regiment was ok with him. I found his response very interesting...apologies if this is off topic...I can move to a new thread if needed.

Thanks,
Briden


Here is my email with his response:

Email begin--------------------------------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010
Subject: Re: Question
To: tlue@urology.ucsf.edu

Hi Dr. Lue,

Quick update, So far no side effects this time around with Pentox! I will plan to schedule a followup with you after I have taken Pentox for (6) months total to see my progress.

Question...Are you ok with me taking the following daily? Please let me know if you would like me to discontinue any.  and...should I take anything else?

 1. (3) Pentox pills at meals
 2. GNC One a Day Vitamin
 3. GNC Super B Complex Vitamin
 4. 5000 IUs of Vitamin D3
 5. 500mg of Vitamin C
 6. 400IUs of Vitamin E
 7. 2000mg of L-Arginine
 8. 1000mg of Lysine


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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010
Subject: Re: Question
From: tlue@urology.ucsf.edu

Thanks for the info. Please stop vitamin E. all others are OK.


Best regards,
Tom



GS

Briden,

If you are able to find out why he wanted you to stop the vitamin E, please let us all know.  I also take 400 units of E per my doctors instructions and have for some time now.

GS

George999

He *might* be concerned about potential for bleeding.  Pentox increases the potential for uncontrolled bleeding.  Vitamin E also increases the potential for uncontrolled bleeding UNLESS you also take Vitamin K along with it.  The two cause a potential for bleeding via two dissimilar pathways, but their effect can be cumulative and this is what does concern doctors and makes them uncomfortable.  In my case, I have long taken 1,000IU of Vitamin E per day with no issues, but I also make sure to get plenty of Vitamin K.  Vitamin E promotes bleeding by actively depleting and inhibiting the pro-clotting function of Vitamin K.  Another potential issue with Vitamin E is that if you take the standard Alpha Tocopherol form, it can cause an imbalance of Vitamin E in the body, specifically by depleting stores of Gamma Tocopherol.  This is why we always advise high gamma type Vitamin E on this forum.  But all of this is just speculation since Dr Lue did not personally specify the why for on this.  - George

Briden


I have replied to Dr. Lue asking for his reasoning on why to discontinue...I have also clarified in my email to him that I am/was taking the high gamma E version to see if that makes a difference to him....I will share his response as soon as I hear back from him.

Thanks,
Briden  

Skjaldborg

Hi All,

Dr. Lue's assistant, Dr. Shindel, also told me to not to bother with vitamin E. He said something along the lines of: A. it does nothing, and B. it increases the risk for bleeding.

I imagine if it were more effective than it would be worth the increased risk.

Skjald

Briden

Hi All,

Below is my follow up questioning to Dr. Lue in regards to why he asked me to discontinue taking Vitamin E to treat Peyronie's:

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> Sent: 9/22/2010 (星期三) 12:32 下午
> To: Lue, Tom
> Subject: RE: Question>
>
> Hi Dr. Lue,
>
> As always, I appreciate your reply!
>
> I have discontinued Vitamin E per your request...I am curious, would you mind sharing with me why you would like me to discontinue the usage of E?
>
> Thanks for your time answering my questions!
> Briden

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> Subject: 答复: Question
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:18:04 -0700
> From: TLue@urology.ucsf.edu
>
> Vit E increases the production of scar tissue in our experiment.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tom
>
> Tom F. Lue, MD, ScD (Hon), FACS
> Professor and Vice Chair of of Urology
> Emil Tanagho Endowed Chair in Clinical Urology
> University of California, San Francisco
> 400 Parnassus Ave. A610 San Francisco, CA 94143-0738
>
> ________________________________

slowandsteady

I don't see them making any distinction between alpha and gamma tocopherol.

On alpha tocopherol for dermal scarring:
QuoteThe authors suggested that, in some cases, topical vitamin E even worsened the cosmetic appearance of scars and concluded that use of topical vitamin E for treating surgical wounds should be discouraged. A follow-up comment on the study pointed out that d-alpha-tocopherol is an extremely unstable compound and that breakdown products and contaminants could account for the inflammatory response observed.

On gamma tocopherol:
Quotegamma-Tocopherol is the major form of vitamin E in many plant seeds and in the US diet, but has drawn little attention compared with alpha-tocopherol, the predominant form of vitamin E in tissues and the primary form in supplements. However, recent studies indicate that gamma-tocopherol may be important to human health and that it possesses unique features that distinguish it from alpha-tocopherol. gamma-Tocopherol appears to be a more effective trap for lipophilic electrophiles than is alpha-tocopherol. gamma-Tocopherol is well absorbed and accumulates to a significant degree in some human tissues; it is metabolized, however, largely to 2,7,8-trimethyl-2-(ß-carboxyethyl)-6-hydroxychroman (gamma-CEHC), which is mainly excreted in the urine. gamma-CEHC, but not the corresponding metabolite derived from alpha-tocopherol, has natriuretic activity that may be of physiologic importance. Both gamma-tocopherol and gamma-CEHC, but not alpha-tocopherol, inhibit cyclooxygenase activity and, thus, possess antiinflammatory properties. Some human and animal studies indicate that plasma concentrations of gamma-tocopherol are inversely associated with the incidence of cardiovascular disease and prostate cancer. These distinguishing features of gamma-tocopherol and its metabolite suggest that gamma-tocopherol may contribute significantly to human health in ways not recognized previously. This possibility should be further evaluated, especially considering that high doses of alpha-tocopherol deplete plasma and tissue gamma-tocopherol, in contrast with supplementation with gamma-tocopherol, which increases both. We review current information on the bioavailability, metabolism, chemistry, and nonantioxidant activities of gamma-tocopherol and epidemiologic data concerning the relation between gamma-tocopherol and cardiovascular disease and cancer.

George999

Guys, NOW this suddenly becomes very interesting.  I have never seen it suggested before that Vitamin E *increases* tendency to scarring!  Everything I have seen before suggests actually the opposite.  If this is true we should probably be paying attention.  Amazing!  And here for how long have doctors everywhere been prescribing Vitamin E for Peyronies (LOL!)?  Whoa!  This will certainly make me rethink this whole issue!  - George

Farinthesouth

There is a LOT of information on the internet, regarding the negative effect of vitamine e ( Topical) in wound healing; one link:


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10417589

What to do from now on...?
Regards

George999

I still think a lot of the negative effects associated with Vitamin E are actually a result of Vitamin K depletion and that as long as Vitamin E is accompanied by adequate amounts of Vitamin K there should not be a significant problem.  Large amounts of ANY Vitamin in isolation can be problematic.  So at the end of the day I am not too concerned about this and will probably continue to take Vitamin E.    - George

loom

Hey everybody,

Here's a brief history.  I have had dupytrens contracture for the last for years and have just undergone xiaflex injections in my hands which looks promising.....   Started noticing curvature of the penis a year ago.  It began very slowly probably 10 degrees deviation at the most.  About five months ago, the deviation started to increase and its in the 30-40 % range now.  It appears to have stabilized.  HOPEFULLY!!  I am especially concerned because I am only 38 years old and expect to have a long sex life ahead of me.

Good news right now is that there is no pain, and i can keep a solid erection no problem.

I definitely want to do everything in my power to keep things from getting worse and hopefully get things to reverse a little if at all possible.  So far i have seen two urologists.  The first one prescribed POTABA for me.  The second one at the Mayo clinic in phoenix prescribed nothing and said to "wait it out."  (are u F*%king serious??)  If things worsened he recommended a minimally evasive type of surgery (cant remember the exact name, but it was special in that it avoided the main nerve areas of the penis)

I am not very happy with either of these plans.   So far i have NOT started taking the potaba.  First problem is that it seems that the generic form of the drug is no longer offered (which would have been a $10 copay)  The actual Potaba will cost roughly $300 a month for 3 months which seems extreme especially since it might not help at all.   The stomach issues associated with potaba is also a concern.  BUT IF ANYONE KNOWS where i can get a generic form of this drug PLEASE tell me....

So after doing more research,  it seems to me like PENTOX is a good alternative to POTABA and in all likelihood appears to be more affective.  I almost went to Dr. Lue when I was in San Francisco (who appears to be a strong Pentox advocate)  Instead i went to a urologist at Standford who proscribed the Potaba (hmmm....)  Now I am back in Arizona looking for a urologist who specializes in Peyronies and one who is specifically familiar with Pentox treatment.
If anyone has any recommendations please post them here.  Also, any opinions or experiences with Pentox versus Potaba or Colchicine I would love to hear.  Or any other (oral) drugs out there that look promising!!!

I think for me drug therapy is the way to go, until there is some definitive results on Xiaflex and FDA approval.  

love to hear what everyone thinks.....

George999

In my book, Pentoxifylline and Ubiquinol are the current gold standard in oral treatments for Peyronie's.  Both have research behind them, more for Pentox than for Ubiquinol.  BOTH are working well for me.  400mg Pentox 3X/day and 100mg Ubiquinol 3X/day.  My local uro tried to get me to take Potaba.  Instead I requested referral to Dr Lue.  Dr Lue prescribed Pentox which works very well for me.  Now, after observing me on Pentox and learning more about its use for Peyronie's, my local uro is prescribing it for me which means I no longer have to get it from Dr Lue.  Ubiquinol is over the counter produced by Kaneka a Japanese pharmaceutical company sold by multiple supplement vendors.  It is quite expensive but worth it for me since I got immediate positive results.  - George

Rachel

My partner started pentox (2x400mg) 6 months ago, same age as you... pain has gone and curve stabilised. I would recommend it, but we haven't tried anything else. Our urologist seems impressed with the results.

Good luck.

R

George999

Loom,  Nobody is seeing your post here.  I suggest you repost under the Urologists topic.  Someone is more likely to be able to find your post there and answer it.  You should entitle it "looking for a uro in AZ" or something like that.  - George

newguy

I'd say that pentox is much more than an alternative to potaba. It really is the treatment that peyronie's sufferers should endevour to take ASAP, especially those new to the condition. You should be able to get pentox from a urologist, taking evidence that pentox is useful (see the resources area of the forum) will help in that regard.

Woodman

I was looking for a reputable online pharmacy to purchase Pentox. I was looking at riverpharmacy.com. I seen others mention they used them and had a good experience, but when I went to check there prices there shipping was $ 24.99! I ve purchased other drugs online and the shipping is usually alot lower in price. Has anyone else noticed or been charged this price for shipping from them?

If anyone has purchased Pentox online from other places could you please post where and what kind of experience you had doing business with them.

hornman

Woodman,  Riverpharmacy is where I got my Pentox.. Yes the shipping is expensive.  I ordered 240 pills but next time I will order more.  I'm not sure if they have a limit but at 3 a day you go thru them quickly.  The pills took forever to arrive. I think they come from India.  I had to sign for them or pick them up at the post office. I do think the more money you spend the cheaper the shipping will be.

fubar

Woodman

I Ordered from riverpharmacy twice getting ready to order again today.Both orders took eight days and I believe if you order online anything over 160.00 shipping is free.Last time I called the gave me the online price because I'd could not remember my online pin.

Yes the pentox works!

Fubar

chefcasey

i tried ordering from riverpharmacy, but it seems as if they only take visa, is this true?

nemo

Back when I was using Pentox, I was ordering it online from Mexmeds4you.com and had good, reliable service. It's sold under the brand name Trental though.

Nemo
51 yrs. old, multiple auto-immune conditions. First episode of Peyronies Disease in 2002. Recurred a couple times since. Over the years I have tried Topical Verapamil, Iontophoresis, all the supps and Cialis + Pentoxifylline. Still functional, always worried.

Disposable Strategies

I looked at the prices from both riverpharmacy.com and Mexmeds4you.com. I understand that riverpharmacy has a pretty high shipping charge if you buy Pentox in smaller amounts, but is there any explanation for such a wide price discrepancy?

On MexMeds4You (http://mexmeds4you.com/seapro.asp?strPro=trental), the price per 400mg pill comes to $1.42.
On River Pharmacy (https://www.riverpharmacy.com/drug/pentoxifylline), the price per 400 mg pill comes to $0.15 (when you buy 120 pills or more).

Am I missing something here? Thanks, everyone.

-DS

nemo

I can't explain the discrepancy other than Trental is the name brand while Pentox is the generic ... not sure if that's the reason for the big price difference though.  

Nemo
51 yrs. old, multiple auto-immune conditions. First episode of Peyronies Disease in 2002. Recurred a couple times since. Over the years I have tried Topical Verapamil, Iontophoresis, all the supps and Cialis + Pentoxifylline. Still functional, always worried.

skunkworks

Has anyone ordered pentox from Alldaychemist ?
This is an emotionally destructive condition, we all have it, let's be nice to each other.

Review of current treatment options by Levine and Sherer]

newguy

I've heard the odd report of people ordering from alldaychemist. They seem to be one of the more reliable sites. Their price is comparable to riverpharmacy ($2.22 for 15 tablets) . As for the comments about wildly different pricing, it's hard to know what the reasoning is. I assume that the cost depends upon how much the site can purchase the drug for, and how much profit they intend to make from it. I heard that it's very cheap at costco in the states. Is this for men with some kind of insurance or can anyone buy it for that if they get a prescription?

fubar

Newguy
I do not know about Costco but I am sure you would need a script to purchase. I am still working on getting a doctor to prescribe pentox for me.I purchase mine from riverpharmacy no prescription needed.

Fubar

George999

Purchasing prescriptions from Costco requires 1) Costco membership and 2) a doctors prescription.  Insurance status is irrelevant.  They will gladly take your cash, check or credit card.  - George

fubar

Hi everyone

I decided to check out alldaychemist today to see if I would prefer them over riverpharmacy.I use a Droid phone for everything as I do not care to own another computer.Ifound the site rather slow and registering took forever as they want a complicated password.After registering on check out they have many more questions I decided to stop and call.The person on the other end was hard to under stand and echoed he answered my question and I decided to stay with riverpharmacy. I believe shipping cost is relatively the same given a few cents.With river pharmacy they do have free shipping over hundred something dollars.I'm going to order a years worth tonight as I have run out.

Fubar

newguy

Quote from: George999 on December 16, 2010, 08:06:05 PM
Purchasing prescriptions from Costco requires 1) Costco membership and 2) a doctors prescription.  Insurance status is irrelevant.  They will gladly take your cash, check or credit card.  - George

Thanks for the info George. In that case I have seen pentox listed at about 0.15c a tablet at costco, so for US citizens with a presciription and possibly no insurance, it seems like a good option.  

fubar

To all that it may concern:

I made my third order from riverpharmacy.The next day I wanted to order somthimg else and could not bring up the site.Calling them confirmed their techs or who ever is trying to correct the problem. Was told they can not  even take an order by phone.

This is the first problem that has occurred with them. Hope this is just a temporary problem as I'm still trying to obtain a prescription for pentox from a doctor in the US.

Fubar

samo


hornman

Hmmm  The riverpharmacy site is still down.  I hope this doesn't mean trouble!

Hornman

fubar

Hornman

Riverpharmacy changed their address to WWW.riverpharmacy. CA so no More. Com.
They called to let me know.Guess they are calling all their customers.Their phone number(1-888-848-1945 is still good.

Fubar

newguy

Quote from: fubar on December 23, 2010, 12:33:07 PM
Hornman

Riverpharmacy changed their address to WWW.riverpharmacy. CA so no More. Com.
They called to let me know.Guess they are calling all their customers.Their phone number(1-888-848-1945 is still good.

Fubar

Hmm, I wonder why they changed address. Maybe there are differences in Canada law regarding online pharmacies. Who knows..

skunkworks

This is an emotionally destructive condition, we all have it, let's be nice to each other.

Review of current treatment options by Levine and Sherer]

Noway

I just want to say yes pentox does work really well. Also to get pentox all you need is a prescription from the urologist and you can pretty much get it from any pharmacy.

newguy

Quote from: skunkworks on December 15, 2010, 08:48:03 AM
Has anyone ordered pentox from Alldaychemist ?

I placed an order at alldaychemist a little over a week ago and it arrived today. Additional info: delivered to the UK, no customs or VAT charges. Bargain.

burnoutz

hello everyone.

i have peyronies for quite a long time, 10 years ago, and i am 28 years old now.The fibrosis plaque has stablizie and my penis is not flexibile. I can still masturebate but sex is quite difficult and uncomfortable. I wonder whether treatments like pentox will still be effective for me at this stage? Or issit too late? My penis is not bent but its pointing downwards and the base is not flexible which make it difficult for sexual intercourse.

thanks.

Noway

burnoutz2010 yes it will be effective. Im 24 had it for 6 years and its working really well for me, get on it. 400mg 3 times a day. You got to have patience and you will notice results in like 4 months but keep taking it after the 4 months. You will see big results trust me.

michael1001

which is the best site from where I can order pentox/trental without any prescription?  

chefcasey

I was just thinking about why a lot of men do not see results from taking pentox in terms of their deformity:

While pentox does have the ability to stop the progression of new scar formation, I do not believe it has the ability to prevent EXISTING scars from contracting, which is why even though it may look like there is disease progression visually, underneath there is no new scar formation, just existing scars shrinking up.