PENTOX - Questions

[Johnleslie]

As I Emailed Phatcat.. I take Pentox. 3 a day and have been for over 10 months. I haven't had any side effects thank goodness but I also haven't seen much change in my bend either. Better or worse. As for storage I recently asked my doctor about med life. He said most prescriptions would be good for a year anyway. And after that they woud not harm you or turn into something bad, they'd just be less effective.
I've read a lot on here about VED helping but I am concerned that it may do more harm. I'm bent but useable at present.
Regards,
John
   

[KLD]

New to the forum. Thanks for the info guys!

This condition began 11 months ago for me. When I was 23!
I've been on ALC for a while (2-3 months). It helps with the pain and itching. Fuller flaccid and erections I believe, but no improvements on the shape or plaque size.
Tried Coq10, didn't really help (more itching) so I stopped it.
Recently got a chance to try Pentox, but since I started it, I feel more itching. Is this how it is supposed to be? It's not helping with pain either. Is there a chance that ALC and Pentox interfere?
How do guys determine if Pentox is helping?

[RoyHobbs]

Hi KLD! Welcome. You'll find lots of great info here.

The itching is new to me. Are you sure it's related to the meds/supplements?

[KLD]

So this is my experience. When flaccid, sometimes there is an itching or unpleasant sensation, often associated with slight pain. It comes and goes quickly. What I meant was these feelings comes and goes more frequently when I take Pentox, making this even more uncomfortable than it already is.

I was wondering if anyone has experienced this before or does it get better? I thought this would improve by taking Pentox.

[funnyfarm]

I had the same experience.  The soreness was a little worse, but the most troubling part was the frequency of the pain increased (with pentox).  However I should mention I was taking 5/day, and it did soften the scar, even after I stopped taking it. So overall it was a good decision to take it.

If the pain is not too distressing I would say hang in there, it could be part of the process of healing / tissue remodeling.

Finally I stopped supplements completely,  but have nearly a full bottle of ALC in the cabinet.  I could not tolerate the extra pain it caused which may be due to its highly acidic nature.  Also, it was much too stimulating for me and created anxiety.   In fact you may want to try pentox only and see how you do, then slowly add supplements one by one.   If you are still having issues reduce the pentox dosage temporarily.

Hang in there, you will get through this !

[inkhorn]

Hey Guys- I have a question about Pentox. Is the main purpose to break up the plague and scar tissue, or relieve the pain? I was diagnosed with this cussed disease about 3 years after a prostatectomy, which I believe to be one of many side effects I experienced from the robotic surgery. I was told my nerves were spared. The percentage of which is TBD. The reason I ask the question is I have little to no pain when erect. Which is great, but that is because, there is little to no feeling down there, ever.I can thankfully have an orgasim, but it's kind of electric and comes from the far rear area of where my prostate used to be. Due to the whole situation, I only get erect using the VED and two of the tightest cock rings. So is pentox for me? The Uro and I both felt significant plague. I have a 45 degree curve up and about a 25 degree twist to the right. I currently use a traction device and take the following supplements- L arginine, alcar, E iodine and dms topical,nattokinase,serrapeptase, and CoQ10.Thanks for the advise. Regards Inkhorn  

[james1947]

The answer in my opinion is yes, Pentox will help.
Three main reason for taking Pentox:
* Helps eliminate penis pain.
* Helps stopping the progression of the Peyronies and even reversing the symptoms
* Increasing the blood flow into the penis

James  

[arcadia68]

Hey Guys,

I'm going to see my uro tomorrow for my Peyronies Disease and ED. My question: Is Pentox primarily to treat Peyronies Disease? Are there any benefits to the increasing blood flow with regards to repairing venous leakage? Any input would be appreciated.

thanks!
arcadia68

[james1947]

Pentox is not approved for Peyronies treatment, but it may halt the progressing of the disease. This is the reason to take it

James

[Milton]

Good Afternoon Everyone,

Yesterday was my long awaited first appointment with my Uro. To bring you up to speed I was diagnosed by my GP in Sept, 2013. Referred to a local Uro.

Firstly let me thank you guys for the suggestions on what info to take with me. I think it helped sway my point with being able to show I knew something about this condition, all be it limited knowledge.

Anyway, my Uro is a youngish guy. Pretty pleasant. Gave me some facts according to what he knew. He pointed out that there is no real cure, nothing proven anyway. What I liked was he was very frank. He said he was not an expert, that he wanted to learn more. He took the copies of the med studies for Pentox that I had printed etc.

He pointed out that in most cases this will correct itself (from his patient numbers) out. He confirmed he could feel the Plaque (duh!!) and then we started to chat. He mentioned that he had one guy he had prescribed Pentox to but it did not improve the condition. I pretty much begged him. I knew this would be my one chance.

So, he agreed to give me a prescription for 3 months. however, after I walked out, it is recommended 1 pill per day. 400mg. He said he wanted to see how i would react to it.

So, good news I have Pentox. Bad is that im not sure on what dosage to take. SOme of you guys say 3 a day, some 2. Will one a day be enough?

Im 90% happy with what happened. The guy seems open to trying things out.

Also, can I ask. Has anyone had a negative affect from taking Pentox?

Thanks again all. Not sure where I would be without this great resource.

Milton

[james1947]

Milton

Negative effect from Pentox are the possible side effects. This is the reason your uro prescribed you one per day.
Mine done the same. He was very afraid from internal bleeding.
Start with one for a week, if you tolerate it increase to two and then to three.
I don't think one per day will help something.
By the way, low dose Cialis (5 mg if you have ED, 2.5 mg if not ED) with the Pentox is a good combination.

James

[MattFoley]

Hi Milton,

James is right. One pill is a good place to start to see how you'll react to it. As for regular dosing, Dr. Lue has me at 800 mg. 3 times per day. I take it with food to avoid possible stomach upset.

[chandnitare]

Hi Milton,

I have taken one tab for 2 years along with  Arginine and Cialis.

I do get benefit I am happy with. I what to increase but failed due to gastrointestinal problem created by it.

Last two month I am taking 2 tow tabs.

[powderpowder]

Guys, I have a question and if all Pentox users could give their input I would really appreciate it.

It is my 2nd day on Pentox, 400mg x2 per day.
I have had a light headache on and off both of these days, I am going to give it some time and maybe chalk this up due to anxiety/stress from midterms this week.

But my question is, was there a period when first taking Pentox for you where your body needed to get used to the drug?  Basically did you go through changes at first and then back to normal?

[powderpowder]

Anybody? I know we got alott pentox users out there

[IhatePD]

I didn't have any adjustment period using Pentox but I know that I bleed more and more easily using it.

Also, my general practitioner told me to contact him ASAP if I get an infection as Pentox may inhibit your ability to fight it.  He did clinical research on Pentox prior to becoming an MD.

[james1947]

powderpowder

You may find the answers here:
PENTOX effect on Peyronie's - Forum Experience - Peyronies Society Forums
And here:
PENTOX - Questions - Peyronies Society Forums
And here
PENTOX - Side effects - Peyronies Society Forums
You will find many answers to your question, but you will need to spend some time reading

James

[dplookin]

To "IhatePD".........Pentox reconfigures blood cells so they can get into small spaces.  It is mainly used to improve circulation in the legs.  With the change in the blood cells, it could make it easier to bleed.  It's like taking a strong blood thinner.  This information is what I found on the Internet.

Plus, Pentox can cause constipation in a lot of people.  In my age group, the 60's, it constipates 72% of the people who take it.  That's why I had to quit using it after 4 weeks.  Pentox really starts working after 4 weeks.  

Just FYI

[powderpowder]

If you start to take Pentox and Coq10 before a pain stage ever happens.....can you skip the pain stage all together? Or make the pain stage last shorter or make the pain not as bad???

Because I do not have pain on erection thank god....I can deal with curvature but pain would put a halt to my sex life with my GF and that is the last thing I want  

Today is one of my darker days with peyronies....had an erection today and had a weird pinch sensation for a quick second but no lasting pain.  

[james1947]

No one can guaranty that starting Pentox and CoQ10 will make the pain not to appear, but in my opinion the chance of start having pain while you are on Pentox and CoQ10 is very low.

James

[powderpowder]

How long did you guys take/are going to take Pentox for?

What my peyronies specialist said, is that it is best to attack the condition 1 year from injury.  Since i was injured in October, I started Pentox March 4th, so its been almost 2 months.  My doctor said I should only take Pentox for 7 months since those are the months will be left from the 1 yr mark of my injury.  While my specialist is extremely helpful and knowledgeable, isn't it normal for some people to take Pentox for over a full year? Maybe even more?  I just dont want to be getting all of these benefits from pentox only to lose them if i get off of it too late.  Should I consider asking him if I can stay on it for longer?  My next check up isnt until July  

[james1947]

powderpowder

I don't see any logic in what your doctor is saying, or I understand you wrong.

best to attack the condition 1 year from injury

It will be very late already!!!
You are going on VED, Pentox, low dose Cialis, CoQ10 as soon as you can after injury/Peyronies start.
I was on 3*400 mg Pentox 18 months, started 36 months after Peyronies start because I was thinking everything will be OK on his own.
Some people are/were on Pentox for much longer time also.
The only reason I quit Pentox is because Pentox may weaken the immune system and in my case, I started to get severe flue every two months. I am planning to go back on Pentox in the future.

James

[powderpowder]

James my urologist thinks it is best to attack it within the one year of injury, he says after that progress stops and he may want me to stop pentox when i hit the 1 year mark (october) which would only be 7 months on pentox. I want to be on it for at least a year

[james1947]

powderpowder

I understand, your doctor is right that in the early stages the treatment is most efficient, but in my opinion this treatment (VED, Pentox, low dose Cialis, CoQ10) will help later also so can continue it.

James