out of acute, some improvements and some personal considerations

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Thomas2

So through daily use of anty-inflamatory and miorelaxant to the penis, i am slowly crawling out of acute stage, appearently.

My gut suggested me that going for the vacuum as i was still having pain, was not a good idea. I still plan on trying it, but only and once the pain has stopped.

1 Recently i have been doing daily pirobec 1% and Thiocolchicoside 0,25%, both in foam, both directly to the penis. I usually apply this at night. As stated somewhere else i have also been doing for a couple of months diclofenac in foam, before it went out of commerce and started the two above.
2 I have also stayed in no fap for nearly two months.
3 I have completely abandoned underpants, and i have been switching to loose throusers, or sweatpants as soon as i can when i'm home. These things i believe helped a lot, given that the penis not being forced on anything or any direction, have been less likely to trigger pain and inflamation, i think.
4 I have also stopped completely bupropion since more than a month. Aside from possible but nonprovable direct correlation from this drug might have with the disease in my case (and whose i will eventually cofirm or rule out if i ever go back to the drug, which i hope), bupropion was also inducing stronger erections, increasing libido.I think the now infrequent strong erections are the main factor that lowered my pain. In fact my erection now is not as strong. So i am starting to think that in my case and in my situation, on acute stage, not bringing penis to erection have been good for recovering. I am not shure if i am ever going to be able to stabilize peyronie.

Recently pain was low\infrequent to mostly absent. Penis is shapeshifting, one day the hourglass seem more evident than the other. Bending has worsened during this new acute stage, and is now a little worse than the initial peyronie arc many years ago. Luckily is not that worse, appearently i think it is a few degrees worse than before. I struggle to understand the shape of my penis, this is one of the most unsettling thing about this disease, imho, because you add self doubt to the insecurity that this disease bring.

I am slowly trying a few sessions of touching and stimulate erection for as long as i can. Today i have even masturbate. Sadly my ED impede me with sustaining erection with no constant stimuli. in a few days i will know it pain is going to come back or be stable. after this session i am a little sore, but if i did not try i could not know...

If pain doesn't come back, i am willing to try vacuum and\or daily low dose cialis to start remodel and regain some vascular strenght.

Quaestions:
Do you think that this daily meds on my penis could bring harm? Also, if pain meds lower pain, how am i shure if the scar is actually healing or if i am anticipating the heal process by not feeling the damage, and ultimately even adding up damage by handling my penis on this no-pain induced confidence?

I thank you in advance for your insights on these thougts of mine, please feel free to share what you think about it. I have tried to be as concise and less verbose as i can.

Thanks in advance, i hope you could tell me what you think of my considerations.
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Thomas2

well, i have touched myself for three days in a row and the pain is back, so i guess i am back in acute.
Yay.

I am at a loss, and i clearly need to start considering other solutions. Any share or even support message is very wellcome.
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Gabriel

Hey Thomas!

I was waiting to see my uro before answering you (I'll explain that below), which is done now. First of all, congrats for the progress you mentioned, it's always a pleasure to read that. Don't despair about the pain coming back after masturbation: it's not like fapping a few times can throw you 6 months back; just totally stop doing it, and your pain will subside again (I have passed 4 months and a half in nofap, can tell you it's worth it).

About the other measures you can take and which will surely help you:
1. My uro just confirmed me it was easy to tell a compound pharmacy to make some diclofenac 4% foam (I thought of it thanks to your other post!): he made me a special RX for it, which I brought to my neighbourhood pharmacy, who will have the preparation done for me by friday. So cheer up: if diclofenac 4% foam worked for you, you can surely have some more specially made by a pharmacy!

2. Yep, nofap at all (my opinion), and slow sex until acute is over.

3. Totally agreed on this one: wear as few underpants as possible, or as large as possible (this really changed my level of pain through the day).

4. Can't tell about bupropion, but I strongly recommend you use the daily cocktail of pentox/cialis/arginin or citrullin/alcar (+ a wide spectrum of natural antioxydants if you like) if not already done, as it has proven efficient on many folks.

--> And BTW, I also asked my uro your question about the anti-inflammatories curing inflammation or just hiding the pain (I was asking me the same for months actually); good news: he told me that they were mainly stopping inflammation, so that the application of diclofenac could indeed theoretically help solve the cause of the evil itself (inflammation, not pain per se).

So, as you see, there are still a lot of things you can do for yourself, and if you already managed to alleviate your symptoms, there's no reason your body shouldn't be able to progress and heal again.

Keep hope, and fight for it!

G
- 35 yo, Peyronies Disease with chronic pain, general hourglassing with girth and length loss since 09/01/17.
- Pain almost cured with Hirudoid cream and diet/lifestyle changes (see my topics on this); deformity still here, but partly reduced with traction + VED.

TonySa

Prescriptiongeneric 3% diclofenac sodium is very inexpensive also.
PxD 2 yrs 9/16.  Failed all treatment. 9/11/18: excision, grafting & implant Dr Karpman MtnView Ca, AMS CX 18cm + 3-1cm RTEs.
Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.

Thomas2

diclofenac gel, noted, i will gitve it another shot.

Pain today was this layer os nnsense. I am in a position that i can't feel pain as long as i don't think i know i hae a penisl So when something reminds me that i have a pehis, the answer comes from above. "ah no, can0t you feel that annoying itchy nuiiance, that give you that sting now and then. Haw can you switch your mind into your male lizard brain? It is this lone desperate "i wish i could have any sexual desire for anyone", nut whenever i get close to be aroused by a situation, the annoying layer of noise and NOPE comes up.

There's some deep nails being shoven down the spine of a self who struggles to consider himself a man. There are days of faking till i make it. There are relations based on not being able to talk about everything, with one side hoping that times passes quickly, and the other not even asking what's the problem with me, but just stright making their own opinion based on diffidence.

It is a day after a day of taking nails down the spine, but we keep on walking anymore.

But somnetimes you start from the worst possible condition, sometime you don't have a happy pplace to goback.

It is a struggle for survivals, and sometimes someone should deserve a hero.
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