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Nitrometer2332

Do any of you guys with Peyronies Disease ever find yourself getting a little jealous of other guys you encounter throughout the day, at the gym, or work, causualy etc? As they say, everybody is fighting a battle that you know nothing about, but still, the the vast majority these guys likely have reasonably straight, normal, fully functioning weiners. I don't know, it just seems very unfair.

I try not to let myself "go there", but I have to be honest and say that there are time when I  find myself a little envious, maybe even a bit resentful, of other men who don't suffer with this affliction.

They never have to deal with the humiliation, self image issues, and depression that is I think virtually inherent with this disease. They never have to deal with the pain, the repeated awkward Uro visits where you're constantly getting your junk handled, they never have to deal with the trauma of getting the injections, or the constant nausea from pentox. They never have to deal with the hassle and sometimes pain that comes with strapping your dick into some medieval torture/traction device. They never have to deal with the fear of the unknown, or the scarry prospect of an invasive surgery. Etc, etc, etc.

Sometimes I think to myself that us poor bastards who have this condition should be allowed to smack other guys who don't on their wieners with a hammer to even the score. 😋

Obviously a joke... It's not their fault we have to deal with this BS... But still... LOL.

Seriously though, do any of you guys ever find yourself feeling like this from time to time, since you've been dealing with Peyronie's?
45, diag May 2018, 40 deg to right & 30 deg up with indentation & hinge effect, pentox & traction (restorex - painful af!), told by uro in Dec 2018 that xiaflex not an option, surgery?, don't know yet

diehardpatriot

I think anyone who says no is lying, we've all felt this way begore
Penis injury in late 2017. A lump formed at injury site that caused no deformity, just pain and a palpable lump. Pain is improving through proper rest and use, diet, and mindfulness. I am always learning and looking to share things that have helped.

damned


Hontas

Anyone that doesnt agree with this guy on this forum, i honestly wont believe his ingenuity.  

Hawk

Quote from: Hontas on December 19, 2018, 06:50:17 PM
believe it or not, penis is all that matters in the eyes of most girls....

That is so wrong.  I think some guys would like to think women sit around thinking and talking about men's penises all day, but most women would laugh if you said that, and most women laugh about men who think that.  

I have a female barber who usually only has one customer at a time in her shop.  She will say anything to me.  She tells me about men she meets online or in-person that want to send her photos of their penis or describe it, such as "it's not real long, but it is nice and thick."  She told me how she and some other women were laughing that men think they want to see photos of a guy's dick. They were laughing and wondering what goes on in men's minds.   There are probably exceptions, and no doubt, once hot and in a passionate situation with someone who turns them on, most women do like some aspect that a man has a penis. But to say that all women care about is a penis is so foolish.  It isn't even the main thing, much less the only thing.  
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
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diehardpatriot

Hawk. Agreed. Neo has a video on this too . If we think about it. Women are NOT like men.  As men, we get turned on by the site of an attractive naked woman. Most women are not like this. Women need much more than The looks of a naked penis to be turned on .  
Penis injury in late 2017. A lump formed at injury site that caused no deformity, just pain and a palpable lump. Pain is improving through proper rest and use, diet, and mindfulness. I am always learning and looking to share things that have helped.

damned

Wouldn't you agree that a unrestricted functionable aesthetic penis is important for the most of the young women?

diehardpatriot

I'm 18 and my girlfriend is a dime, there's one girl that doesn't place too much value on a penis. I remember after my injury when I refused to accept that I needed to take a break from sex, and  I understood something, My hands are way better at pleasuring a girl than my penis will ever be aha. I had to get creative with my hands and mouth because I couldn't use my penis for penetration. I can make my girlfriend, or probably any girl orgasm 100 percent of the time using just my hands or mouth and hands. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. Was it just my hands? No. It was me as well. I turn my girlfriend on, and then comes when I use my hands. Not vice versa. If you turn on a girl, it doesn't matter if you have a penis or no penis. Crazy realization when I found out how good hands are at pleasuring a girl. And the fact that she couldn't touch my penis or suck on it made her even more turned on. I just kept teasing her. Weird I know... but girls minds are a lot different than we think.  
Penis injury in late 2017. A lump formed at injury site that caused no deformity, just pain and a palpable lump. Pain is improving through proper rest and use, diet, and mindfulness. I am always learning and looking to share things that have helped.

Hawk

This is not the same thing as saying a penis has no value, but the truth is simple.  70% of women cannot have an orgasm from intercourse.  They require clitoral stimulation to have an orgasm.  Men that are so hung up on their penis seldom understand women or care to understand women.  As a result, they do what they themselves like rather than understanding and making a life of learning how to please a woman.  I have been married for 50 years, and I swear to you I have found out how to please my wife in ways in the past year that I had not perfected in the first 45 years, and I am a highly sexual, very exploring, creative partner.

My wife is very sexual.  We do not have sex under the covers in the dark, BUT I am willing to bet if I could rotate my glans 180 degrees, she would not even notice, even during oral sex.  I know I can take a viagra even with an implant or use a VED and make my penis so engorged it looks like it will explode.  It is bigger, the glans is huge, and to her, it is the same penis I have just from inflating my implant.  It is nowhere on her priority scale of what she wants out of sex.  I actually kind of wish it was because I like to see my penis in that condition, but she is ---- let's get to the stuff that matters.  :)
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
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damned

I'm not dumb, I know about female orgasms and how to achieve them, but practicing sex just like the way you guys described it, doesn't seem very romantic to me.

Hawk

OK, then choose not to do it.  It's your choice.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
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Bubba dawg

Romance is not sex at all. Separate issues. Romance is what turns many women on. This is before you focus on her body. Sending her flowers, complimenting her etc
Like elaine said on Seinfeld. Women see men's bodies as utility trucks lol  Men fuel the porn industry. Most women prefer what they cant see rather than complete nudity. Hence the popularity of romance novels with women
5 Rounds of Xiaflex. Good results.

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damned

Maybe you guys know more about girls my age, don't know...

diehardpatriot

Damned: the only reason why my experiences were not romantic was because I was in pain from being turned on and erect. . It was very romantic watching my gf moan and kiss me and be all over me without even having to use my penis. It was eye opening and empowering. It's all about you that makes it romantic and your connection with the girl. Strangely during that time the "sex" between me and my gf was very passionate. She literally would do ANYTHING I asked of her, which is something I was scared to do before all of the Peyronies bs happened to me. ANd remember, I was only using my hands and mouth. While occasionally letting her either blow or manually stimulate me. You're overthinking it man, I am only 18 years old. Young like yourself. My girlfriend is a head turner, not just gassing myself she really is a 10. If she doesn't care about "big dicks" or "non restrictive fully functional" , I'm sure the other girls in my age pool are not too far off. Of course there are some that do care, but in my opinion I'm guessing the majority do not. I personally know others with Peyronies aside from myself that are living proof of the idea that women do not give a crap about how perfect your Dick is or even works
Penis injury in late 2017. A lump formed at injury site that caused no deformity, just pain and a palpable lump. Pain is improving through proper rest and use, diet, and mindfulness. I am always learning and looking to share things that have helped.

Bubba dawg

Well there are mature women and immature women. I wouldnt stereotype and say all 20 somethings are immature. Ya when I was 36 , I dated a 21 year old. First date. Took her out to dinner and back to my place . You want to have sex? Sure. No romance. No foreplay . No complaints . There are exceptions haha
5 Rounds of Xiaflex. Good results.

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damned

@diehardpatriot

Future will show.

Hontas

Honestly i am once again wrongly understood.  

damned

It's not about the size. At least in my case. It's about the unusable curvature.

Which young woman is willing to give up "normal sex" til the end of her life? If I would know only one nice girl who does, and she would go with me, I would never risk surgery.

Hawk

Hontas,  Did you ever read Charlie Brown cartoons?  If you did, you could become one of her partners at her 25 cents psychiatric booth.  (Don't get mad, I am teasing you) but where you get the stuff you write, by what documentation other than your imagination, I have no clue because it contradicts all known literature.   Women your age are no different than women.  Female sex drive crosses all ages.  Society changes their view of what is publically discussed and permitted, but women in 1600 enjoyed oral sex as much as 20-year-old women today.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
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Hawk

Quote from: damned on December 20, 2018, 06:04:36 PM
It's not about the size. At least in my case. It's about the unusable curvature.

Which young woman is willing to give up "normal sex" til the end of her life? If I would know only one nice girl who does, and she would go with me, I would never risk surgery.

You mean you would never consider surgery to totally fix your dick????   How do you guys think?  You don't think or reason.  IF YOU CANT HAVE "NORMAL SEX"  exactly what are you risking by having surgery.????  The surgeons I would deal with NEVER end up with a patient who cannot have normal sex.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
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popopo

Haha, this is one of them posts I was talking about. Nice going Hawk, always such a gentleman.
Age: 25
Date of onset: 17
Symptoms: sharp pains, numbness, change in shape/size, hourglassing and discolaration from jelqing/VED usage as a teen. Diagnosed with a venous leak and possible scarring.
Treatments tried: cialis, pentox and VED didnt help

Hontas

damned
better get that plastic tube in my dick, it probably feels really good am i right? ;)

Hawk

Indeed you are right.  Me nor no one else thinks it feels anything but good.  I can promise if you went over to your girlfriend's house with it she would ask you why you didn't do it sooner and your only answer would be, "I don't know honey, I should have.".

If a guy can have sex 50% of the time he might say, "what if I have surgery and I end up as the only guy by a high volume doctor that can never have sex.  I don't want to risk the 50% of sex I can have to try to fix the 50% where the chick is primed and ready and I can't perform."  

However, if you can never have sex and say, "I don't want to take the chance that I will be this doctor's first disaster and end up never being able to have sex.  (oh wait, that's how I already am right now.  I guess there is no risk.  At worse I will stay the same.  At best I will be a bionic wonder and my reputation will spread far and wide.)

You cannot call it "risk" unless you have something to lose and there is some real likelihood you will lose that thing.  So, saying, "I don't want to risk my totally useless dick", is utterly illogical.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums

Hontas

Well, then its good that i have a well functioning, big, but dick that will be enough for any girl so i won't be putting any foreign material in my dick in the foreseeable future

Hawk

Hey, good for you.  Go with the natural look!
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
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Bubba dawg

Back to the original question. I am not jealous of other people's money, possessions,  looks, height and I sure dont think about their dicks lol
5 Rounds of Xiaflex. Good results.

I am known to give out false information and post nonsense with little to no evidence to back up my claims.
I have ignored several warnings. Further reports to the moderators or Administrators and I will be banned.

damned

Quote from: Bubba dawg on December 21, 2018, 06:08:00 AM
Back to the original question. I am not jealous of other people's money, possessions,  looks, height and I sure dont think about their dicks lol

If that's true, you're stronger than me...

Sandstraight

Yes Nitrometer2332, I feel jealousy every single day!

Like you say at the Gym, walking down the street and seeing a young couple, at the supermarket etc.

The worst is when I see guys taking girls home or to a hotel room after the club or in the very worst instances hearing guys have sex with girls in the next room. In this instance I feel extreme jealousy and uncontrollable rage which makes me want to kill something or someone. I don't mean to offend people but just being honest.

Being a 27 year old virgin with a severely curved penis is no fun...
29, congenital curvature with 90° bend to the right and torsion 45°, single for entire life to date, 10nr embarrassing sexual experiences, girls frustrated and never see me again. Saving up for STAGE surgery with Dr. Kuehhas (target-Autumn 2022).