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Water fasting.
« on: August 11, 2018, 08:25:20 PM »

Is there any record of anyone trying this for Peyronie's disease? I plan on starting one for my hard flaccid/deflated glans and going straight into a ketogenic diet upon completion, with intermittent fasting. I've heard that after a certain number of days, your body starts eating away at scar tissue, and you begin to be left with healthier tissue in it's place. Anyone know anything about this?

Edit: Well, if no Peyronie's sufferers have tried it yet, I will pioneer it and post the results when I do!
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Re: Water fasting.
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2018, 09:27:53 PM »

Tried long time ago, much before Peyronies started so no data about helps or not.
I lost 4 kg in 6 days, but I was very weak .

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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2018, 05:13:41 PM »

I am interested in water fasting for peyronies too. Another member said that he fasted for 20+ days and it cured him. Sounds too good to be true for me personally. I believe in theory your body will start eating away at proteins only after all the fat has been burned/ used. So it could be beneficial to get as lean as possible before fasting I suppose. also regarding the eating away at proteins, I heard it could be dangerous. Your heart and organs are composed of these proteins and your body will probably start eating away at these organs too if Im not mistaken after many days fasting. If you water fast please do it under supervision as it is very dangerous if youre going for many days straight. All the best
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Re: Water fasting.
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2018, 10:35:25 PM »

Sounds danger bros. I don’t condone water fasting. Water is life.
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Re: Water fasting.
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2018, 11:22:37 PM »

As far as I know water fasting refers to only consuming water during the fast. Without water would be a dry fast, and I think that would be a very silly idea.

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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2018, 05:36:25 AM »

The idea is that it eats away all scar tissue and waste material in your body. Many people have had scars, warts, stretch marks, loose skin, etc. completely disappear. It also reportedly clears out a lot of health issues, so I'm curious to see what happens. And yes, by water fast I mean consume nothing but distilled water for 7-40 days, depending on how far you want to go. I've heard nothing but positive results so far. I plan on doing it before 2019 so I'll update this thread as I get closer to it.
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2018, 11:56:10 AM »

Unless there’s any medical research supporting water fasting I’d stick to a low carb anti-inflammation diet.
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2018, 03:07:38 PM »

I am also interested in doing a water fast. Perhaps just for one or two days to test it out before going for a week or so. The plague in my penis is spreading so I would do just about anything to prevent it from getting bigger and reverse it.
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2018, 05:05:34 PM »

Well, the whole point of water fasting is to induce autophagy. Yoshinori Ohsumi won a Nobel prize for his research on autophagy in 2016: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2016/press-release/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5240711/ https://lifespa.com/fasting-research-wins-nobel-prize-medicine-right/

On top of that we have anecdotal evidence from some of our own members that water fasting has helped greatly, with results that logically coincide with the process of autophagy (example: I found a cure.. - Peyronies Society Forums) as well as anecdotal evidence from others that it has erased scars, warts, etc. In case you guys haven't noticed, my strategy is essentially "try everything that has been said to work" so I'm 100% going to do it. The longer the better, so I'll go as long as I can when I do it. I'm already in the phase of my research where I'm analyzing safety precautions and safely implementing the fast, so no worries on that end. I should mention that you can go about it with intermittent fasting if you want (which I plan on doing when I'm done), but the most dramatic results would obviously be seen in a full-blown water fast of extended duration. Also, if anyone is interested or doubtful I can link to more.
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2018, 06:55:47 PM »

Perhaps a good combo is keto diet with no eating 3 hours before sleep and w a total 12 hour overnight fast.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2018, 07:06:15 PM »

I did 4 days of water fasting. That is WATER fasting - no tea or coffee allowed. Drinking tea or coffee messes things up.

It stimulates something called autophagy, which is very good for you.

3 changes - Peyronies Disease scar became somewhat softer, lost water and fat mass (no muscle loss according to my BF% scale), and my beard grew out slower for a month (it returned to normal slowly).

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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2018, 07:29:25 PM »

Tsanchez, I currently eat like crap (fast food, etc. I don't really watch what I eat). The plan is to water fast for an extended duration, and end it by transitioning into a keto diet with a 6-8 hour feeding window, with the other 16-18 hours being a fast.

Christopher, I'm glad to hear of your results, thank you for sharing! I can only imagine what it is like to go for 7-21 days and beyond.

Edit: Also, at a minimum I plan on IV'ing a dose of stem cells into my bloodstream the day I begin my fast as well.
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2018, 07:34:37 PM »

Water fasting:
Day 1: No problem. Lots of time and more energy. Also easy on the wallet.
Day 2: More energy.
Day 3: Relaxed. Heart rate around 60. But weak. Definitely not a time you want to be running or lifting heavy objects. No problems.
Day 4: Starting to feel not so good. Bilateral flank pain as well - but nothing severe. I gave up and I started eating some boiled eggs.

I might push it again, but 4 days was tough for me. I think 2 to 3 days is good. With more practice, I will try to push it to a week. Overall, I am far more productive (no time wasted on eating, no sugar crashes, and lots of mental energy) and I have more money in my wallet.

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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2018, 07:35:52 PM »

You're welcome JS1991.

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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2018, 06:34:14 AM »

Hey thanks JS and Christopher for your experimentations and great advice!! I'm gonna try a 3 days apple monodiet in a short time (just for fitness reasons), then may go on water fasting like you in a few months... I will keep reading your posts with interest and gratitude :-)!!

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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2018, 11:11:02 AM »

This sounds too good to be true.

By the way I whish success to anyone who's gonna try it and I look forward to hear positive results.

However, with regards to autophagy, I'm not totally sure that it always ameliorates fibrosis; I've found a paper on pubmed about autophagy and liver fibrosis and in its conclusions it's stated that: "Autophagy may help cells to live through stress conditions and attenuate inflammation, leading to fibrosis reduction. Autophagy is involved in collagen degradation, which may contribute to fibrosis attenuation. However, autophagy fuels HSCs to be activated and promote fibrosis" (here's the link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4528272/).

I'm no reasearcher, so I don't understand that much about the paper linked above, but it appears to me that autophagy may be helpful in the early acute phase of a fibrotic disease (by inihibiting fibrotic tissue from spreading further), but it may not help at all or it could even worsen the problem if it's already chronic. Besides I don't really know how much water fasting induces autophagy.
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2018, 12:24:33 PM »

"This sounds too good to be true."

Many claimed possible stabilization techniques sound like fantasy or snake oil stories, but I'm trying to figure how someone would get benefits from these reports on benefits of keto or fasting. Someone please tell me that if not reverse the condition, this made the disease stabilize.

"Besides I don't really know how much water fasting induces autophagy."

It makes sense that if the body doesn't have nutrient income starts eating unused cells.

I also like skeptical and challenging point of view, to avoid being fooled, but plz think twice before destroying some theory that shows some light in this darkness if it looks like coming from a disinterested suggestion.
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2018, 12:25:34 PM »

Ah yes btw I'm back four years later, this acute phase came back  :'(
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2018, 05:21:12 PM »

@loloc:

I don't feel like I "destroyed this theory", since I merely shared my doubts about this approach. In fact, if you thought twice before replying to my message, you would have read that I'd be glad to hear about positive results from people who's going to give this a try.

Besides, the fact that people promoting this wouldn't get any benefit from such suggestions doesn't necessarily mean that this procedure is totally unharmful. Even people who suggest jelqing on pegym forums don't get any benefit from guys who try out their exercises, but this doesn't mean that jelqing is safe and works (on the contrary lots of guys came here because of these so called miraculous excerises).
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2018, 05:50:11 PM »

Fair enough. This crap distorts my rational thinking.
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2018, 12:16:54 AM »

I don't believe it was destroyed either, I have some articles I could link of other types of fibrosis being reduced by autophagy but I'd like a more complete body of work before I post my reply. Overall I still believe in water fasting and plan on going 14-40 days.

Edit: Until I collect my research, here you go: https://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/25/12/2835 "Autophagy Regulates TGF-β Expression and Suppresses Kidney Fibrosis"

I want everyone that is keeping track of this thread to consider the following. We are battling a disease and have a few members who are willing to literally test everything. It is not negative and I believe Werther understands that. Nobody is trying to push snake oil on anyone. We go by facts and if I personally am confronted by a fact contradicting my views not only will I readily accept and adopt the view, I will be happy it happened because I do not want to be ignorant of the truth. The ultimate goal is full understanding of the disease along with a path to healing, and I believe we as a community are doing a good job figuring this out. Ego does not come into play here. Everything I do is based on logic as I aggressively seek a cure, or at least a route to suppression of the disease.
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2018, 02:05:42 PM »

Hi all,
I'm new to this forum, recently developed peyronies. Looking for a way to heal.

WATER FASTING is an interesting idea, but there are some things you should be aware of.
First DO NOT USE DISTILLED WATER. Distilled water will leach vital minerals and other nutrients out of your body especially your bones - this can cause all kinds of health issues. Use good quality drinking water, or spring water etc.

Second the way your body reacts to a water fast is like this: First your body will scavenge your GI tract for nutrients (glucose - for energy), this lasts about 24 hours to 36 hours. Next your body will tap your liver for glucose (actually bile duct gland) and get another 18 to 24 hours worth of energy (glucose).
Once this is tapped out your body will start to convert muscle to energy. The time this lasts varies greatly depending on the individual. The more muscle one has the longer this phase lasts. But it also depends on how active one is and how much a person uses their muscles. Essentially your body will convert muscle to energy until your body determines it can't tap your muscles anymore b/c you need the muscle that's left for your level of daily activities. (This phase can last anywhere from 3 or 5 days to 20 days or so).

Once your muscles have been tapped as much as they can then your body will start to convert fat to energy. This phase can vary greatly also depending on how much fat you have.

The reason your body converts muscle first, before fat is that it is more efficient. It takes less energy for your body to convert muscle than fat. Your body will always process and function in the most efficient way. Converting fat to energy requires a lot of energy so your body is spending a lot of energy to get energy - very inefficient - but good for fat loss, b/c you are getting a doubling effect - at this point you will lose fat fast.

Maximum total days for water fast range from about 10 to about 40 depending on the person. Should be done with medical supervision or at least a phone check in.

One thing to keep in mind is your changing your muscle to fat ratios when you do this for any length of time. If you do this say for 5 to 10 days you will probably lose quite a bit of muscle and little fat so your ratio will become lower muscle to more fat, b/c you haven't reached the point where body is converting fat to energy.

If you do this plan on going for long enough to start converting fat to energy - again time varies per individual. so you can keep your ratios healthy.

I have considered trying this for peyronies also, but haven't as of yet. Not sure I can do long enough. I would think that you have to get to the fat burning stage for it to work - just my logic given how water fasting works. In theory to me it seems like it should work. Water fasting is also supposed to reset the body.

Please let us know how it goes and if it helps.

Thanks.
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2018, 05:52:57 PM »

Hey Faith, welcome to the forum and thanks for the insight. Do you have any experience water fasting? I have to disagree with you on muscle loss. Ketosis kicks in a lot quicker than you describe (even an intermittent fast of 12+ hours per day induces ketosis) and from what I've read the general consensus is you retain the majority of your muscle, and this includes information gained via anecdotal evidence.
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2018, 04:06:06 AM »

Hello Faith,

Yep, welcome here, and thanks for your very interesting post!!

I'll be delighted to read about your experience on water fasting, as it is one of the next things I think about trying to improve my Peyronies Disease (and I tried a lot of things). So yes, please report!

And I agree with JS: don't worry about losing muscular mass on fasting. I myself have read a lot of information about carbs/proteins/lipid metabolism (+ neoglucogenesis, etc.) for one or two years, and they were indeed very contradictory. But the empirical thing is: I've been on intermittent fasting for like 4-5 months and a half now, and have not lost any gram of muscle mass (I've actually made progress on my 2-3 weekly trainings). Even better: I did a 3 days monodiet last week, eating only apples so no significant (if any) intake of proteins, and had my training two days after I was finished: stable performance, sames weights, very good energy... So no loss of muscle mass!

Last stuff: I recently talked to my uro, which is a also a great sportsman (he makes 150 - 200km bicycle races), and he is convinced that 12 - 16h of IF or 40 min of cardio exercise on empty stomach already triggers ketosis. I didn't know that, and don't know to how extent it's true, but I tend to trust him...

So, cheer up and don't get too scared!!!

Bye :-),

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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2018, 12:01:04 PM »

   Hi there, i saw this topic recently after it was initiated so i wanted to give it a shot, so here is my experience.
   After i saw the topic i started to fast for 12hours at first, on a weekend. The next weekend i fasted for 1 day and half, in the third week for 2 days and half and the forth week for 3 day. So far wasn t so bad, yeah i had some casual headaches but other then that was ok. So i decided to not do any fast for 2 weeks to recover and then go for the long run. For my surprise i managed to fast for 14 days, just finished a few days ago. The worst days were the first 4-5 days (some headaches, naushea), after that was pretty much ok(actually i felt really good). By day 8 i noticed that i got rid off most off my fat, exept for some on my belly. By day 10 i noticed my body wasn t consuming fat anymore and shifted to muscle mass. But i wasn t getting improvements with my peyronie, so i decided to go on for a few more days to see what happens. So there i was in day 14, with 0 improvements in my peyronie(at least not noticeable), so i decided to stop because my body was still feedind on my muscles.
   So there it is my experience guys, sorry not much to help with. Probably its required a longer period, but in case would meant to loose to much muscle mass, so no for me.
   Thow, there is one thing were i could messed up during my fast, but i am not sure. During the last days of fasting i realized that the liquid soap that i was using contains milk protein and i know for sure that even the slightest amount of protein inhibits the autophagy process. What i don t know is how much of that protein got thru the skin in the blood, because the skin is not that permissible.
   
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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2018, 05:35:52 PM »

Thanks for sharing your experience! I have no idea if that soap could affect anything; I've often wondered about things like that though (sugar in toothpaste for example!). A few questions: are you in acute or chronic phase? How long have you had Peyronie's? Can you describe your scarring (location, size, number, etc.)?

I have plenty of fat on me, so I'm hoping to go 28-42 days. Looking forward to posting my experience!
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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2018, 04:27:57 AM »

Hey Sorinu,

Thanks a lot for your input, it's not because you did not have improvements that's it's not valuable; it is!!!

For myself, I do not think that the protein soap would contain can pass the skin, be bioavailable and used by your metabolism... It would mean that taking a hot bath makes your blood vessels fill with water, no???

Well, anyway thanks again buddy, and stay strong!
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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2018, 06:54:23 AM »

Re milk proteins passing through the skin, apparently it's possible - Food allergy may arise through our skin | ScienceNordic

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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2018, 04:11:06 AM »

Wow wow WOW... I don't know if this can affect the fasting process, but it's very interesting!!
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« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2018, 05:07:19 PM »

hi js1991, I am in the chronic phase. I have the plaque for over 8 years.
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« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2018, 10:35:56 PM »

I did a couple of 4&5 day fasts a long time ago. Felt fantastic after it. I did it after I read Dr Durham cured a bone spur in his ankle and decided not to have a procedure for it. Mind you it took him 60 days I think
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« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2018, 04:21:25 PM »

An update: I'm finally off of an addicting medication that I was on for years (Xanax), which has now enabled me to do a water fast! I'm so happy. The plan is to do a long water fast starting on New Year's day. I might do a shorter fast in December as well. I do know that it will be beneficial for me to ease into the process by doing intermittent fasting/shorter water fasts first, which I plan on starting after Thanksgiving. I'll keep everyone updated.

Also interesting: https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/comments/7mkfkv/fasting_cured_my_what_are_your_stories/ definitely worth a read.

Edit: After going through that entire thread, I don't think I've ever seen so many strangers post so many miraculous success stories of ailments being totally cured in one thread. It seems to be either the real deal or the biggest scam ever. This autophagy stuff is exciting.
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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2018, 04:31:24 PM »

Looking forward to hearing from anyone who has measureable peyronies improvement from water fasting!  Please post.
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« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2018, 03:32:33 PM »

Tony

Without being cynical, I don't think you will get such a post 8)

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Re: Water fasting.
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2018, 07:13:40 PM »

I have already made such a post.

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Re: Water fasting.
« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2018, 07:16:07 AM »

LOL

@JS: go go go man, we're behind you and eager to read another good fasting experience; I'll come to that too in a few months!
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« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2018, 12:01:48 AM »

Best type of water fast is from a diet called the Snake Diet. You can YouTube it.

His "Snake Juice" is actually how you want to water fast. Just drinking water will dilute electrolytes. I know he kind of screams in his videos, but the diet is super legit. Optimal for autophagy and healing.

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« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2018, 02:24:29 AM »

I've come across his videos several times but got turned off by the screaming. I guess I'll give it another try lol.

Edit: After watching the videos, I have to say that this guy put together pretty much all of my ideas into a fasting system. Saved me a lot of trouble to be honest, and I think I'll be following his route. I really wish he wasn't so annoying in his videos but hey, I'll take what I can get. Looking forward to a dry fast after I gain experience!
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Re: Water fasting.
« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2018, 06:25:48 AM »

Maybe peyrones is caused by a lack of certain nutrients. No wonder some of you fasters are having headaches. The brain needs certain nutrients to function properly. The body does not store many vital nutrients. I have known some people with not a inch of fat on them and they got alzheimer's. Which is caused by plaque in the brain. Plaque can form anywhere. My doctor has a lot of experience with this disease.  He recommended taking 1200 units a day  vitamin e along with xiaflex. E is a natural softener that is recommended for heart patients for a long time. May a e deficiency contributed to my peyrones? Google it. He did not mention starving myself for any length of time. E is not a dangerous thing to try. E by itself won't get rid of peyrones. 1500 per injection dollar meds won't get rid of peyrones. Fasting though can detrimental to your health seeing how your body needs vitamins, minerals and protein daily. I think it would be hard to pinpoint fasting helping peyrones. Peyrones has been known to go away without any kind of treatment is what I have read. I am open minded to alternatives that are not potentially harmful and/or make the situation worse. Xiaflex can make the situation worse but it is scientifically proven to make things better in most cases. Administrated by a doctor. I know this illness can make us desperate for solutions.  This is like trying to repair your auto by draining the oil out in my opinion

 
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« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2018, 08:00:55 AM »

It is obvious you have read zero of the research on fasting that has been posted.

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Re: Water fasting.
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2018, 01:46:01 AM »

Bubba dog. Vitamin E is Stone Age treatment for Peyronies man lol. If a doctor is telling you to take vitamin E, run away ASAP. fasting and diet  is cutting edge stuff and we’re all just experimenting with it, it’s not proven at all. What the “good” docotors are prescribing is Pentox. xiaflex is cool and all but it’s imvasive and even that doesn’t work 100 percent of the time or even 80 percent.
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« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2018, 03:29:41 AM »

I will check out Pentox. The doctor I see is the only one within 30 miles
of me  that treat peyrones. I have had good luck with xiaflex and e. Maybe it could be better with Pentox. I love eat too much to fast lol . Fasting probably make me depressed
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« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2018, 03:22:37 PM »

Lol, no one said it was easy. Dieting and fasting is hard. Just remember, your doctor would rather offer you xiaflex and collect a check from auxilium pharmaceuticals than tell you to change ur diet.
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« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2018, 06:13:25 PM »

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/policy-marijuana-use-helps-with-blood-sugar-control-and-bmi-051613#1 "Marijuana Decreases Insulin Resistance, Improves Blood Sugar Control" and this includes in fasted states. Does this mean I don't have to quit smoking? :O

I'm still going to quit. But, that is good to know!
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Re: Water fasting.
« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2018, 05:46:35 AM »

Update: Successfully fasted 18 hours. It was rough because of a stomach ulcer I have; eating greatly soothes the pain, which meant I would normally eat often for that reason. I also just made Snake Juice and tasted it for the first time. It isn't too bad, although I'd prefer regular water. I used Cayenne pepper with it during the fast to attempt a start at curing my ulcer, but it tasted horrible and I had to stop. I'm now going to continue on with cabbage juice to eliminate the ulcer. If that doesn't work, I'm going to man up and deal with the pain of the ulcer for days until fasting clears it up, but that will be rough due to difficulty sleeping. For those interested, Snake Juice is essentially lightly salted water, meant to keep your electrolytes up during a fast without breaking it. Here is the recipe:

Water = 2L
Potassium Chloride powder = 1tsp (2560mg)
Sodium Chloride (Himalayan pink salt) = 1/2tsp (840mg)
Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda) = 1tsp (1080mg)
Magnesium Sulphate = 1/2tsp (200mg)
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Re: Water fasting.
« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2018, 03:10:16 PM »

JS: On the fasting reddit link, someone claimed they cured their stomach ulcer with a fast. Maybe yours will respond the same.

Bubba; I’m glad you’ve had good luck with xiaflex. I personally wouldn’t touch it, my penis doesn’t react very well to any sort of trauma...
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Re: Water fasting.
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2018, 06:29:06 AM »

Update: the cabbage juice was disgusting (lol), couldn't handle it, so just going to man up and fast on cayenne pepper snake juice for as long as I can (removing cayenne pepper once ulcer is gone). Plan on starting fast when the ball drops on new year's eve. Until then, going to do a 48 and a 72 hour fast to prep my body. At this point, I'm completely on board with the snake diet, and I follow everything Cole Robinson says when it comes to fasting. I have about 80 pounds of body fat to burn off so I could potentially go into the range of months with my fast (50-100 days), and I will be doing aggressive dry fasting after my refeed. Probably getting stem cells the week I start my fast as well, and again after. I'm going to try to contact Cole to see if he can coach me over the phone throughout the process, I'll keep everyone updated.
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Re: Water fasting.
« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2018, 11:57:54 PM »

I’m currently 8 hours into my first ever 48 hour fast to force ketosis/keto flu and break sugar and carb addiction in preparation for an extended fast. I’m using the updated snake juice recipe which removes everything but potassium and baking soda, which makes it less salty and much more appetizing. This alkalizes the stomach and raises the PH a few notches so I have to be careful to switch over to regular water before my refeed or I’ll get indigestion. I’ve successfully implemented the cayenne pepper into the snake juice and am happy to report that I can handle the taste no problem and it’s numbing my stomach ulcer pain, so looks like I’m in the clear to get this done.

Although the plan is to break the fast after 48 hours, there’s a possibility I will say f**k it and just go straight through Christmas and the New Year. We’ll see!
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« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2018, 04:50:02 AM »

I saw some ketones diet supplements in the local health food store. They were around $40 if I remember correctly. I want to see some before and after improvement pics. Has anyone got any pics of a clear cut straightening after fasting?
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